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2L at Queens and, just got 1st term grades and vert disappointed, which are B, B, B-, C+ C+ 

Would I have any chance at OCI??? Or is it just pointless to participate 

I am hoping that my ECs and past work experience would make it up somehow but I am still negative to it so any comment/advice will be much appreciated!   

My resume includes:

- NCLI volunteer during this summer

- In-house M&A / corporate strategy & planning experience for 4 years at a global firm

- In-house Legal Department (dispute/arbitration support for legal disputes in Dubai Court) at the same firm for 3 years

- One of 4 co-founders of constitutional law related student club at school

and, 

- School varsity team (soccer) 

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It's never pointless to apply.

Worst case scenario: You improve improve your resume and cover letter writing skills (skills you'll need if you don't get OCIs).

Best case scenario: You secure a job.

 

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The truth is that those grades hurt; but you have a seemingly interesting background. Craft that background into a great, not good, great cover letter and you may get some interviews. We don’t know what awaits tomorrow, so live as if it’ll all work out, but prepare as if it won’t. 
 

Taking this from my own comment from another post. 
 

“to reiterate what has been said before in different threads on similar topics, your grades are your grades, not much you can do about it, don't self select yourself out and apply anyway, its not like applying costs you anything... other than some time and effort”

 

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1 hour ago, rookielooking said:

2L at Queens and, just got 1st term grades and vert disappointed, which are B, B, B-, C+ C+ 

Would I have any chance at OCI??? Or is it just pointless to participate 

I am hoping that my ECs and past work experience would make it up somehow but I am still negative to it so any comment/advice will be much appreciated!   

My resume includes:

- NCLI volunteer during this summer

- In-house M&A / corporate strategy & planning experience for 4 years at a global firm

- In-house Legal Department (dispute/arbitration support for legal disputes in Dubai Court) at the same firm for 3 years

- One of 4 co-founders of constitutional law related student club at school

and, 

- School varsity team (soccer) 

If you're hoping to land Big law OCIs, that will be difficult with those grades, especially considering how Queen's has a higher curve than most other law schools. But you also have experience that is not available to many, if not most, law students in your shoes. Do you have connections? Because if you can just leverage those connections from your past work experiences, you don't even need to concern yourself all that much with OCIs. 

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46 minutes ago, Deadpool said:

If you're hoping to land Big law OCIs, that will be difficult with those grades, especially considering how Queen's has a higher curve than most other law schools. But you also have experience that is not available to many, if not most, law students in your shoes. Do you have connections? Because if you can just leverage those connections from your past work experiences, you don't even need to concern yourself all that much with OCIs. 

Thanks for the advice but, making long story short, unfortunately connections wont be much help in my case. 

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OCIs could distract you from your schoolwork this semester and plunge your grades even lower - you might want to wait until articling recruitment and do everything you can to pull up this semester's grades to even things out before then. I know finding a job is absolutely important, but if you strike out in OCIs this semester and get bad grades, it could be even harder in the future. Just my 2c.

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13 minutes ago, poshspice said:

OCIs could distract you from your schoolwork this semester and plunge your grades even lower - you might want to wait until articling recruitment and do everything you can to pull up this semester's grades to even things out before then. I know finding a job is absolutely important, but if you strike out in OCIs this semester and get bad grades, it could be even harder in the future. Just my 2c.

IMO, anyone should still be able to at least budget their time and prepare application materials. OCIs + in-firms are no doubt a distraction, but forgoing the opportunity to apply is a pretty big thing. 

Also, did Queen's do pass/fail last (academic) year? If not, what were your 1L grades, OP? 

 

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Go for it. Manage your expectations, but don’t count yourself out.

If it’s the case that grades will be given less weight this year, you may be able to offset your grades with the experience you have. 

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^ I’m really curious to see the Ultravires numbers this year. A lot of schools made pass/fail mandatory for 1Ls, it’s going to be interesting to see if hiring skews towards the “usual-er” suspects as a result.

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OP, did you opt for your final 1L grades, or did you make them pass fail? 

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