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Chances? B2 3.1-3.2 Lower Lsat

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I know it's not high, but I had explained in my application that I was working a part time job due to financial difficulty at home. I know I can improve and aim for a higher school if I had a couple more months, but I have only studied for the past two months or so. When I take a BR, my lsat stands around a 153. I'm thinking during timed and worst case scenario it will stand at a 150. I'm taking a tutor so I'm hoping that I can improve each section by like 2 marks going into the exam  with a possibility of a 155 highest. But i dont know if I can guarantee that.

 

What do you guys think about my possibility of getting accepted? I bombed the interview, I have a lot of ECs during my highschool and undergrad related to social justice and law. I volunteered and worked for law firms and commercial real estate companies. My application stands out for diversity and social justice. 

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What was your LSAT score? Was Ryerson your undergrand university because that would help you with the lower lsat score. 

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11 hours ago, MKhandail said:

When I take a BR, my lsat stands around a 153.

When you say BR, do you mean after a blind review?

A timed score vs a BR score can be very different. For me the BR score is about 15 points higher then my PT score.

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14 hours ago, bobby96 said:

What was your LSAT score? Was Ryerson your undergrand university because that would help you with the lower lsat score. 

Its around a 151 and no my undergrad was not Ryerson but it was a Toronto University

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9 hours ago, SNAILS said:

When you say BR, do you mean after a blind review?

A timed score vs a BR score can be very different. For me the BR score is about 15 points higher then my PT score.

Yes i meant untimed..

I believe timed its roughly a 151. I do well on most LG its just LR that seems to be up and down so I dont know how the test for jan will take me 

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1 hour ago, MKhandail said:

Its around a 151 and no my undergrad was not Ryerson but it was a Toronto University

York or U of T?

Are your B2 per OLSAS?

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17 hours ago, bobby96 said:

Was Ryerson your undergrand university because that would help you with the lower lsat score.

How does going to Ryerson help?

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11 hours ago, MKhandail said:

Yes i meant untimed..

I believe timed its roughly a 151. I do well on most LG its just LR that seems to be up and down so I don't know how the test for jan will take me 

Your score on an untimed LSAT should not be used as an indicator of how you will perform on a real, timed LSAT. As I alluded to, I score anywhere from 168 to 174 on an untimed LSAT, yet only 156 to 159 on PT. My last official score from Nov was 157.

Based on your reports of only a very small difference between your timed and untimed PT scores, I believe you are not spending enough time on BR. I usually spend an hour or two at least on BR; for me, LG takes the most time as I usually only get it half done under timed condiations.

This is not to say that taking the LSAT untimed is a bad study strategy. 7Sage.com, which is where I believe the term BR is most commonly used, recommends taking a practice  LSAT under timed conditions (the score  and correct answer distribution from this is very important) and then continuing to do a BR before checking the answers. You get the most out of every fresh LSAT using this method.

Keep studying, and best of luck for the 2022 application cycle. If you wish to dedicate the time and energy necessary to maybe get into law school, you will need to purchase more real LSAT prep tests and probably also invest in a good study resource such as 7Sage.com.

And please let us know your PT scores under real, timed conditions once you get comfortable with it.

FYI, you'll need probably a 160+ on an official test.

You also mention you have a tutor. If you are paying this person any significant amount of money, then I am surprised that you have not gotten better advice from them and thus require us here on this forum to tell you.

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Since Ryerson law has only had 1 cycle it's hard to predict with any confidence. That said, unfortunately you have low grades, a low predicted LSAT, and you feel that you bombed the interview. None of those lend to good odds. That said, if you aren't accepted this year then you have ample time to improve your LSAT and prep for another interview. 

I sympathize with your circumstance, but unfortunately working during school (I'm assuming you mean your job was during school, not during LSAT prep) may be a reason for lower grades, but doesn't demonstrate that if you weren't working you'd have achieved significantly higher grades. Typically schools are looking for at least a few semesters of consistently good marks on which to see your academic potential.

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On 1/12/2021 at 9:42 PM, LawBlaw2019 said:

Since Ryerson law has only had 1 cycle it's hard to predict with any confidence. That said, unfortunately you have low grades, a low predicted LSAT, and you feel that you bombed the interview. None of those lend to good odds. That said, if you aren't accepted this year then you have ample time to improve your LSAT and prep for another interview. 

I sympathize with your circumstance, but unfortunately working during school (I'm assuming you mean your job was during school, not during LSAT prep) may be a reason for lower grades, but doesn't demonstrate that if you weren't working you'd have achieved significantly higher grades. Typically schools are looking for at least a few semesters of consistently good marks on which to see your academic potential.

No by "bombed" i mean I butchered it. As in, I think I did incredible. I am trying to personalize my application as a candidate for social justice. But in terms of competitive scoring, I am def not one of the candidates. I was hopeful Ryerson was more holistic. I guess there is always next year!

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8 minutes ago, MKhandail said:

No by "bombed" i mean I butchered it. As in, I think I did incredible. 

Both "bombed" and "butchered" sound negative to me. Guess I'm too old to know the lingo these days.

And hey, I think it's a long shot but it's not 0% (plus I'm not on the admissions committee so my opinion doesn't matter :)). Best of luck and if it doesn't work out then you're right, always next year. If you're able to offset your grades with a stronger LSAT you'll be a more competitive applicant. 

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