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Hi, 

Just wanted to ask if anyone knows how Queens will view cGPA and L2 calculations for students that had co-op? Particularly uWaterloo co-op, where we alternated co-op and study terms each semester from second year and forward. A little worried because on my transcript I have a 3.7 cGPA, but OLSAS dropped it to 3.52. Based on how L2 is calculated for co-op students, my L2 can potentially be 3.8. 

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Following. OSLAS is so brutal. Since in one Term 1 I did a co-op term, my Term 2 of that year was given only half the weight it otherwise would have. Makes no sense.

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So I also did coop at Waterloo and asked Queens the same question.

So if like me you don't have 2 consecutive years without summer courses, Queens doesn't take a B2 from you. Instead they take your CGPA. 

Now, in an attempt at fairness they won't be weighing your CGPA against everyone's B2. Rather they will compare your CGPA to others CGPA.

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In response to SadNWO as well as the post, that just seems unfair to me. I currently go to Waterloo, and my first year GPA was terrible (3.34) on OLSAS gpa. My 2nd-3rd year GPA is a 3.93 on OLSAS, but even if they're comparing my CGPA to others, the others are getting in based on their last 2. It is confusing why they wouldn't just take last 4 terms

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7 minutes ago, Billsfan79 said:

In response to SadNWO as well as the post, that just seems unfair to me. I currently go to Waterloo, and my first year GPA was terrible (3.34) on OLSAS gpa. My 2nd-3rd year GPA is a 3.93 on OLSAS, but even if they're comparing my CGPA to others, the others are getting in based on their last 2. It is confusing why they wouldn't just take last 4 terms

I asked the same question. The answer was that they feel summer courses aren't equivalent to courses taken at other times of the year. 

When I pointed out that UW operates on a trimester system where the course content is not altered by term, I was told that they knew this, but didn't have any way of reflecting it. 

Apperantly UW applications get flagged for a more through review or something along those lines. Not that it helps much in our situation.

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4 minutes ago, SadNWO said:

I asked the same question. The answer was that they feel summer courses aren't equivalent to courses taken at other times of the year. 

When I pointed out that UW operates on a trimester system where the course content is not altered by term, I was told that they knew this, but didn't have any way of reflecting it. 

Apperantly UW applications get flagged for a more through review or something along those lines. Not that it helps much in our situation.

Yea that seems really stupid to me considering that summer courses are in no way easier than anything else, and all of our semesters are the same length. That genuinely boggles my mind as to why they would make it more challenging, not to mention that co op job searching takes up a lot of time every semester, giving us less time to study than other Ontario Schools

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On 12/10/2020 at 8:04 PM, castlepie said:

Following. OSLAS is so brutal. Since in one Term 1 I did a co-op term, my Term 2 of that year was given only half the weight it otherwise would have. Makes no sense.

Im a coop student too, but all my grades seem to have been weighted equally. Can you elaborate on what your OLSAS is showing in regard to your grades? 

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6 hours ago, lawstudent2006 said:

Im a coop student too, but all my grades seem to have been weighted equally. Can you elaborate on what your OLSAS is showing in regard to your grades? 

There was one time I did co-op in term 1. Since I guess I technical wasn't in "school" the full academic year, the term I wasn't in co-op (term 2) lists every course that term as "H." My other co-op terms were in the summer so my other courses weren't affected.

And this is after I messaged them on SAM basically being like "...is this right?" because there were other discrepancies.

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5 hours ago, castlepie said:

There was one time I did co-op in term 1. Since I guess I technical wasn't in "school" the full academic year, the term I wasn't in co-op (term 2) lists every course that term as "H." My other co-op terms were in the summer so my other courses weren't affected.

And this is after I messaged them on SAM basically being like "...is this right?" because there were other discrepancies.

Huh. Did SAM confirm this is correct? While i didnt have any half credits, i did have some courses put in the wrong years. Not a big deal. 

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12 hours ago, lawstudent2006 said:

Im a coop student too, but all my grades seem to have been weighted equally. Can you elaborate on what your OLSAS is showing in regard to your grades? 

Just to clarify, were all your co-op terms from April-August, or were they spread out like mine?

At uWaterloo, starting either first or second year depending on your program, it's: Study term, Co-op, study term, co-op, study term, co-op, study term...instead of the traditional study term, study term, summer (repeat). At Waterloo, there's no 'summer' term like other universities, we operate on a tri-semester schedule. So there's no such thing as "consecutive study terms".

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1 minute ago, aloo said:

Just to clarify, were all your co-op terms from April-August, or were they spread out like mine?

At uWaterloo, starting either first or second year depending on your program, it's: Study term, Co-op, study term, co-op, study term, co-op, study term...instead of the traditional study term, study term, summer (repeat). At Waterloo, there's no 'summer' term like other universities, we operate on a tri-semester schedule. So there's no such thing as "consecutive study terms".

Yeah. Im at UW too lol. I have done co-op's in both Winter term and in Spring term (the traditional school terms) and as far as I can tell my grades all counted equally. None were counted as half. 

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1 hour ago, lawstudent2006 said:

Huh. Did SAM confirm this is correct? While i didnt have any half credits, i did have some courses put in the wrong years. Not a big deal. 

Yes: 

From SAM on OLSAS:

""H" is listed for your Academic Year 20XX (because the first term was a co-op). The schools will receive your official transcripts as well so they will be able to see all the details on your transcripts"

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7 minutes ago, castlepie said:

Yes: 

From SAM on OLSAS:

""H" is listed for your Academic Year 20XX (because the first term was a co-op). The schools will receive your official transcripts as well so they will be able to see all the details on your transcripts"

Oh Okay. Well hopefully the schools do take a look at our transcripts and get the full picture like they say. 

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On 12/15/2020 at 6:01 PM, lawstudent2006 said:

Yeah. Im at UW too lol. I have done co-op's in both Winter term and in Spring term (the traditional school terms) and as far as I can tell my grades all counted equally. None were counted as half. 

I know my cGPA on OLSAS was not an issue, but how did you check the LS/B2? 

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