Jump to content
neymarsr

Another British Columbia No-Fault Post

Recommended Posts

I know this has already been discussed here, but with the votes in and the NDP keeping control of B.C., what are peoples thoughts on this drastic and what now seems inevitable change?

If you’re a PI lawyer in B.C. who’s income depends on MVA claims, what’s the game plan here? Are we likely to see a exodus of lawyers from B.C. to the jurisdictions where money can still be made? 
 

You’d think it would also affect summer jobs and articling positions in B.C. (and by extension there will be more people applying for the jobs that remain and jobs in other provinces).

Oh boy. I don’t like this. No I don’t like this at all.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, neymarsr said:

If you’re a PI lawyer in B.C. who’s income depends on MVA claims, what’s the game plan here? Are we likely to see a exodus of lawyers from B.C. to the jurisdictions where money can still be made? 

Individual PI lawyers are mostly just going to change practice areas, their practice is still a litigation practice. I rub shoulders mostly with sole prac and small firm PI lawyers but they really aren't concerned about it.

I really don't think that it's lawyers who are going to be the big loser in this.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am a business lawyer at a mid-sized firm that includes eight personal injury / ICBC defense lawyers. I understand these lawyers expect the pre-no-fault files to keep them busy for approximately the next five years. Four of the lawyers are senior calls who I expect will retire within the next five years or when the work dries up. The other four lawyers already have somewhat varied practices, and I understand they intend to put greater emphasis on other practice areas over time, including family, construction, estate litigation and commercial litigation. One of the lawyers recently added an immigration law practice to his service offering.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We have a file with opposing counsel newly transitioned from ICBC Defense to Family.

WhoooDoggy- what a colossal pain in the buttukus. There seems to be a different attitude about disclosure, client management, collaboration, - well just about everything really. 

I know sample size = 1. But I did wonder if this transition is going to be widespread will the lawyers change or will family law in BC go back to where it was 15 years ago.

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, Rumpy said:

We have a file with opposing counsel newly transitioned from ICBC Defense to Family.

WhoooDoggy- what a colossal pain in the buttukus. There seems to be a different attitude about disclosure, client management, collaboration, - well just about everything really. 

I know sample size = 1. But I did wonder if this transition is going to be widespread will the lawyers change or will family law in BC go back to where it was 15 years ago.

 

One possible upside: maybe these civil-> family lawyers will actually have read and understood the Supreme Court Family Rules. Unlike many current family law practitioners, who seem to think rules of court don’t apply in family law. 

Edited by QuincyWagstaff
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/25/2020 at 10:30 AM, lawstudent20202020 said:

Individual PI lawyers are mostly just going to change practice areas, their practice is still a litigation practice. I rub shoulders mostly with sole prac and small firm PI lawyers but they really aren't concerned about it.

I really don't think that it's lawyers who are going to be the big loser in this.

Agree X 2.  Biggest losers: car crash victims who will be left hanging when ICBC cuts off their Part 7 no fault benefits off with no one to help them and no tort claim to get non-pecuniary damages. The NDP snuck this all through in the middle of a pandemic  - no referendum, no public consultation.  It really smells wrong (like the election) but the NDP have even more power as of today than last week.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My mid-size firm also has a hefty ICBC defense practice, along with a bit of plaintiff PI work. What @NucksFTW said is the same thing that's happening here.

The younger lawyers in the insurance group are adding commercial litigation, construction litigation, and real estate litigation to their arsenal. 

On our website under "practice areas" we had PI listed at the top. During a marketing meeting we decided that we'll be moving it to the bottom soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Apparently some are trying to get into class action work.  Going after carriage against some big bois.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

this is an interesting post which warrants discussion.

If the OP can provide links to other relevant discussion posts, that would also be helpful if "it's already been discussed here". 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Recent Posts

    • Hopefully the diverse group didn't do arts in undergrad
    • You know, I'm really not here to make this into an argument. Though considering the OP's questionably good-faith in starting the thread initially, maybe there's no other purpose to this now. But I'm honestly not even sure what I'm being called out for. You say this sort of priority can be important to people. I don't disagree with either that statement as truth, or with someone choosing to have this priority when they have it. I was explicitly clear I'm not questioning anyone's priorities. Then I stated something of my own as truth. That this priority - however or whyever it may be held - will be limiting. You haven't disagreed with that statement either. Then you told me to do more training. Which is honestly a recommendation that I go and get my ideology corrected by more sensitive people than I am. As in, fuck you and your regressive beliefs, but you know, politely. What the holy fuck did I even do that bothered you aside from stating a truth that you would prefer not to be true? We agree on the facts. And if you think I need to be ideologically corrected in terms of pretending that true things aren't true just to make people feel more comfortable, I could argue that you need to be professionally retrained into acknowledging that true things remain true regardless of whether they suck or not, and regardless of your feelings about them, and our jobs as lawyers often involves dealing with true things even when we don't like that they are true. I chose to ignore this the first time. But telling me to go get better training is fucking obnoxious. I've never yet had EDI hours that encouraged me to ignore truth just because it was uncomfortable truth. And even if I had that training, speaking as someone who has delivered CPD myself, I'm not under any illusions that crediting someone with the ability to train others makes their opinions superior in some absolute way. Ideology remains ideology even when it's given a gloss of legitimacy by forcing other people to listen to it and calling it "training." And any training that requires me to pretend something isn't true just to make people feel better about the world, rather than dealing with truth and helping them function in the world, is stupid and irresponsible.
    • @Toby1994I calculated this with drops and my best gpa for my best 2 years (first and second year) was 3.5.  
    • hey guys! Just thought I'd mention that my application finally updated online and I can see that they have received all of my application materials, also listed with the accurate dates that I sent them. The decision now says 'Written Notification to follow' (which judging be the forums is fairly common and doesn't mean much). Thanks for the helpful responses! 
    • I agree with this. If it’s worth it comes down to how bad do you want it?     in the long run, the extra few thousand dollars won’t seem like a big investment in becoming a lawyer. Looking back when you’re doing a job you settled for and wishing you had spent that extra money. In the short term, it will indeed be a devastating amount and a big sacrifice. 

×
×
  • Create New...