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Called admissions and now applications are focusing on holistic review. I was told by someone in admissions at another school that 25% of UofA's acceptances are through holistic. Can anyone verify this? My numbers are 3.3/162

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It ranges each year from about 10-25ish holistic acceptances, I think. Last year, there were 10 holistic admits.

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I have also been waiting.  Did admissions say that they are not extending offers to any other applicants on the basis of numbers but have already moved onto the holistic review process? Is this why we have not seen any second round offers yet? Did they give you any type of timeframe or numbers of spaces that have not yet been filled? Sorry for all the questions but I am now very anxious about this. Thank you. 

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Second round offers will not go out until earliest later this week, or next week. Second round offers are only made due to someone offered a first round offer either a) declining their seat; or, b) someone offered a first round offer lapsing on the tuition deposit deadline which was March 31.  Due to the fact banks may take up to a few days to process transactions, and if a deposit is back dated to March 31 UofA will still honour the deposit, don’t expect second round offers to go out until at least a few days have passed the deadline, as UofA would be waiting for any back dated deposits.  Although it is an interesting development that holistic reviews have supposedly already begun, as those offers have historically gone out in the past at a much later date, e.g. May.   My purely speculative hypothesis is that UofA may have a received more hard acceptances of first round offers this year, I.e. more people paying the deposit than previous years, and as such UofA may be expediting the admissions process so they can be done with it sooner, and if there are more hard acceptances, then this would also free up the admissions’ team schedule to now begin evaluating applicants for the holistic review as opposed to being bogged down with sending out multiple second round offers. Lastly, I have never heard of UofA taking in 25 holistic applicants, the most recent cycle aside from this one, UofA only had 8 holistic admits, and I believe this number is fairly consistent year to year. 

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Is the second round the same as holistic review? Are people optimistic about there chances for the second round going to be evaluated holistically? 

I assumed that these two were separate. 

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5 minutes ago, BearStearns said:

There were 25 holistic admits in the 2017–18 cycle (https://issuu.com/lawcomm/docs/ulaw_prospectus_2017-18_proof.26fin) and 36 holistic admits in the 2016–17 cycle (https://issuu.com/lawcomm/docs/law_student_prospectus_5_-_for_dean)

I stand corrected, however their most recent cycle was much lower.  Thank you for the clarification  

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-u9luOkViBOZE9aNENLN3hRaWxnQmQtM212UEd5SW1GVDBN/view

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2 minutes ago, Euroguy18 said:

Is the second round the same as holistic review? Are people optimistic about there chances for the second round going to be evaluated holistically? 

I assumed that these two were separate. 

No the second round offers are much like the first round offers whereby offers are extended based purely on stats, holistic admits are when they review your personal statement in light of your less competitive stats and evaluate your application with your personal statement in mind. 

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In the most recent data, there were only 8 holistic admits. Is this to say in an incoming class of 183, only 4% of the incoming class had their softs considered? Find that a bit intense. My contact told me 25 PERCENT of UofA admits come through the Holistic Review process. Could there possible be a holistic component to second round which they included? They were an admissions officer at a Canadian law school so I doubt they would make those statements uninformed. 

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3 minutes ago, Yabbie said:

In the most recent data, there were only 8 holistic admits. Is this to say in an incoming class of 183, only 4% of the incoming class had their softs considered? Find that a bit intense. My contact told me 25 PERCENT of UofA admits come through the Holistic Review process. Could there possible be a holistic component to second round which they included? They were an admissions officer at a Canadian law school so I doubt they would make those statements uninformed. 

Your contact may have been referring to earlier cycles, whereby 36 holistic admits were accepted, however for the most recent cycle you are correct, only 4% would have had their personal statement evaluated alongside their application. UofA does not require anything beyond your LSAC number, undergrad grades and a personal statement, as such even when evaluating your softs, they’re undeniably limited to what knowledge you provide them about yourself.

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I am eagerly waiting for the upcoming prospectus to be released, it will be interesting to see if UofA continues this nascent trend of accepting fewer holistic admits or not, my theory is that they will continue the trend.  Historically, holistic admits were used to fill in the gap between regular applicants admitted and available seats, to maximize tuition revenue of course. My reasoning follows; the economy in Alberta has begun to pick up, and with the escalating pay raises in both Calgary and Edmonton, and with the Calgary legal market being a more lucrative and attractive offering than Vancouver I imagine more BC applicants will also continue to apply here.  Additionally Alberta has a much, much more ideal cost of living, and with the higher pay in Calgary compared to Vancouver, lawyers in Calgary have both better pay and lower cost of living. Interestingly, the most recent cycle also happened to see the most B.C. admitted applicants of the last three cycles, by a quite substantial percentage.  As such with the increased interest from BC applicants UofA will begin to receive more competitive applicants from BC, thus making it more difficult to get into UofA, and with more regular applicants being admitted, the number of holistic admits will decrease.   

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I also wanted to add that UofA does very well in the Vancouver legal market, I happen to have the employment statistics given to this year’s current 1Ls and Vancouver is the largest destination of where UofA grads article, aside from Edmonton and Calgary of course. 

 

Edit: With this all said it should be no surprise that BC students will increasingly continue to apply and accept offers to UofA.  

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On 4/2/2019 at 4:30 PM, TheSaskConnection said:

Your contact may have been referring to earlier cycles, whereby 36 holistic admits were accepted, however for the most recent cycle you are correct, only 4% would have had their personal statement evaluated alongside their application. UofA does not require anything beyond your LSAC number, undergrad grades and a personal statement, as such even when evaluating your softs, they’re undeniably limited to what knowledge you provide them about yourself.

Are you certain this is correct? I believe there were 8 indigenous admits into last years class, and these are also admitted under holistic review.  Based on the dates in last years accepted thread though (and the fact that there was a waitlist admit ON orientation day), I feel like the number of total holistic admits might have been higher than 8.

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1 hour ago, Iheartcats said:

Are you certain this is correct? I believe there were 8 indigenous admits into last years class, and these are also admitted under holistic review.  Based on the dates in last years accepted thread though (and the fact that there was a waitlist admit ON orientation day), I feel like the number of total holistic admits might have been higher than 8.

In UofA’s prospectus for this year’s cycle, they stated they had 8 holistic admits, as such I am strictly going based off that information.  It definitely could be more if UofA chose to fudge the numbers one way or another.  

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On 4/5/2019 at 1:52 PM, Iheartcats said:

Are you certain this is correct? I believe there were 8 indigenous admits into last years class, and these are also admitted under holistic review.  Based on the dates in last years accepted thread though (and the fact that there was a waitlist admit ON orientation day), I feel like the number of total holistic admits might have been higher than 8.

Even though UofA says there were 8 Indigenous admitted students doesn't mean they were all admitted holistically. I applied as Indigenous this year and was admitted first round, so were a few others I've spoken to (my understanding is if they don't make it past first round offers they go to be judged holistically). Because of this, there could be a few of those who applied under regular category getting in the holistic round still (I am thinking the released number of holistic admits in the applicant profile was correct). Best of luck!

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