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2.91/3.31/3.1 LSAT: 177 Chances

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4 minutes ago, cryingrightnow said:

I know the LSAT score is high, but the cGPA is abysmal. Should I apply in Canada at all, or only to the states. Thanks in advance!

Is 3.31 your L2 or B2?

You will get into Manitoba at least.

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6 minutes ago, NeverGiveUp said:

Is 3.31 your L2 or B2?

You will get into Manitoba at least.

It is my L2, and I was more so wondering for Ontario schools and maybe UBC

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3 minutes ago, NeverGiveUp said:

Is 177 your only LSAT score?

If so you will get into UofA with L2 3.31.

You also may get into Western, UNB, TRU, USask, etc.

You will get into UBC if your GPA after drops is 74% or higher:

http://lsutil.azurewebsites.net/UBC/Predict

You should have a shot at Georgetown and Northwestern.

Good luck!

Yes, the 177 is my only score. Thank you!

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29 minutes ago, cryingrightnow said:

I know the LSAT score is high, but the cGPA is abysmal. Should I apply in Canada at all, or only to the states. Thanks in advance!

That is a great LSAT Score, how did you prepare for it, and what was your undergrad?

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With a 177 I think schools would be dumb to reject you, not saying that they won't, but scoring a 177 is damn hard to ignore. I would say that you have a decent chance at any schools that definitely uses an index. I would also assume that if you have some sort of reason that your GPA is low, then you could apply for access. If you can qualify for access category I would assume you would get multiple offers. I'm no expert by any means but that is my best guess. 

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7 minutes ago, ConcernedApplicant said:

With a 177 I think schools would be dumb to reject you, not saying that they won't, but scoring a 177 is damn hard to ignore. I would say that you have a decent chance at any schools that definitely uses an index. I would also assume that if you have some sort of reason that your GPA is low, then you could apply for access. If you can qualify for access category I would assume you would get multiple offers. I'm no expert by any means but that is my best guess. 

Thank you for your kind words, 

Unfortunately, the cGPA matters a lot more in Canada and I don't really have any excuse other than I was working full-time (which, isn't really a good excuse because I did it to myself). Regardless, thank you for your encouragement. 

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14 minutes ago, PrayforMe said:

That is a great LSAT Score, how did you prepare for it, and what was your undergrad?

I studied for an entire year, bought the powerscore books and read all of them in 2 months and then just did a practice test a day. My undergraduate was in engineering sciences with a focus in engineering physics.

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3 minutes ago, cryingrightnow said:

I studied for an entire year, bought the powerscore books and read all of them in 2 months and then just did a practice test a day. My undergraduate was in engineering sciences with a focus in engineering physics.

So you graduated from engineering?

You may get into any law school in Canada.

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1 minute ago, cryingrightnow said:

I studied for an entire year, bought the powerscore books and read all of them in 2 months and then just did a practice test a day. My undergraduate was in engineering sciences with a focus in engineering physics.

That makes a lot of sense. Thats really impressive, and with an undergrad like that, the low GPA also makes sense. I would suggest applying to some of the holistic schools and tailoring your personal statement to better reflect your attributes as well as why you want a career in law

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49 minutes ago, cryingrightnow said:

Thank you for your kind words, 

Unfortunately, the cGPA matters a lot more in Canada and I don't really have any excuse other than I was working full-time (which, isn't really a good excuse because I did it to myself). Regardless, thank you for your encouragement. 

Fair enough, I worked 25ish hours a week for one year and it was tough enough, can't imagine full time for the whole 4 years. My cGPa is 3.33, with a L2 of 3.57 so I feel your pain on how much cGPA matters in Canada. It is possible that for a school like York who allows students to fill out a "Part B" of their application without having to qualify access that could maybe help explain your situation. Also for schools like Windsor, you would have a shot because you clearly show the aptitude required as seen from your LSAT score. I would be very surprised if you didn't get in anywhere. Good luck! 

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1 hour ago, NeverGiveUp said:

So you graduated from engineering?

You may get into any law school in Canada.

Let's not get carried away.

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11 minutes ago, erinl2 said:

Let's not get carried away.

Oh don’t worry, he knows  the engineering degree doesn’t mean much haha.

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Honestly you’re score is so impressive. Please keep all of us updated as to what law school you got into. I am writing the lsat in June. I am in full study mode at the Moment and I too plan on doing one practice test everyday all of april and May. 

All the best 

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44 minutes ago, Improbability said:

Oh don’t worry, he knows  the engineering degree doesn’t mean much haha.

I think Erin is referring to the "You may get into any law school in Canada" part.

Yes the lsat is high but both the cgpa and L2 are significantly below avg. So no not any school. Chances? Yes. Any school? I wouldn't say any school. But definitely a chance at a couple of schools.

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19 minutes ago, CrimNation said:

I think Erin is referring to the "You may get into any law school in Canada" part.

Yes the lsat is high but both the cgpa and L2 are significantly below avg. So no not any school. Chances? Yes. Any school? I wouldn't say any school. But definitely a chance at a couple of schools.

Fair enough, I read it more like the fact that there is a chance that OP may get into 'any' law school possibly, not necessarily every law school. Being this much of a splitter is so rare it is hard to say what schools will think, it may depend heavily on personal statements who knows. Its so hard to predict because usually people with high 170s don't have a sub 3.0 cGPA right? Not disagreeing with anyone just pondering what may happen. I'm very interested in how this will turn out for OP and what school would be willing to take a shot at someone who is a splitter like that.

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3 hours ago, ConcernedApplicant said:

Fair enough, I read it more like the fact that there is a chance that OP may get into 'any' law school possibly, not necessarily every law school. Being this much of a splitter is so rare it is hard to say what schools will think, it may depend heavily on personal statements who knows. Its so hard to predict because usually people with high 170s don't have a sub 3.0 cGPA right? Not disagreeing with anyone just pondering what may happen. I'm very interested in how this will turn out for OP and what school would be willing to take a shot at someone who is a splitter like that.

I agree with everything you said except for the any VS every part. OP’s best bets are schools that emphasize LSAT (like Western) and schools that take drops (like Manitoba for example). 

The only way another school like UOttawa (who looks more at cgpa over lsat) would take the OP is if the OP has a legitimate Access claim and provided documentation. Then Ottawa can see the reasons behind the cgpa, look up to the lsat, and be more holistic towards that person. Although, there is little debate as to why someone’s cgpa was affected and not their LSAT, but that depends on the case.

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1 hour ago, CrimNation said:

I agree with everything you said except for the any VS every part. OP’s best bets are schools that emphasize LSAT (like Western) and schools that take drops (like Manitoba for example). 

The only way another school like UOttawa (who looks more at cgpa over lsat) would take the OP is if the OP has a legitimate Access claim and provided documentation. Then Ottawa can see the reasons behind the cgpa, look up to the lsat, and be more holistic towards that person. Although, there is little debate as to why someone’s cgpa was affected and not their LSAT, but that depends on the case.

Fair point, I guess some schools like Ottawa wouldn't weight the LSAT as highly, I just don't know which schools would care more. but I guess looking at the accepted posts past years Western and Ottawa seem to be the opposite of eachother like you said, Western caring about the LSAT much more than Ottawa, lots of people getting into Ottawa with mid 150s but nobody getting in with a low gpa unless they have an access claim. 

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