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Is anyone with index 242 or higher still waiting?

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Index = L2 * 22.5 + Average LSAT score.

242 should be the auto-admit index.

So far the lowest index admitted is 238.13 (according to the posts).

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There's no way that L2 is calculated correctly

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1 minute ago, stqust said:

There's no way that L2 is calculated correctly

That’s what I’m thinking, a 3.25 and a 165 (great score don’t get me wrong) I doubt would be accepted at all... let alone in December. 

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Only one person with a 3.2 was accepted last year, and that persons LSAT was between a 167-169... so.... where’s my offer lol :(

 

for real though UofA, sauce me that offer please. 

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4 minutes ago, stqust said:

There's no way that L2 is calculated correctly

I don't know.

Let's say that L2 is 3.29 and the index is 239.

It is still low.

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8 minutes ago, johnsmithh said:

what kind of stats do you guys have?

241.75, if i have to apply next cycle i will most likely be above 242 though.

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3 minutes ago, Grinder99 said:

241.75, if i have to apply next cycle i will most likely be above 242 though.

Someone was recently accepted with 3.65 and 159, so their index would be 241.125. Your index looks like it’s slightly higher so you should hopefully get in soon, also! 

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As you may already know, some guy got admitted yesterday with a 245 index score. This is particularly interesting not because of the score but because they were admitted a day after the deadline for first round offers 

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I'm still waiting to hear back from them with a 245.1

L2= ~3.53 (self-calculated)

LSAT= 164, 165, 168 (avg 165.67)

They seem to be weighing GPA more highly than in previous cycles. Not to mention they seem to be behind on admissions this year

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16 minutes ago, Jamesthe39 said:

I'm still waiting to hear back from them with a 245.1

L2= ~3.53 (self-calculated)

LSAT= 164, 165, 168 (avg 165.67)

They seem to be weighing GPA more highly than in previous cycles. Not to mention they seem to be behind on admissions this year

You will most definitely get an offer and probably pretty soon. My sisters ex got in with the same gpa and a 163 lsat a couple of years ago. They seem to still be giving out offers.

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Just a reminder that the index is speculative in that someone kinda figured it out based on the admitted gpa/lsat profile. It’s not confirmed by the university so when you see discrepancies between your index and a lower one, just know this may be a time when that index doesn’t hold up, and try not to stress overly hard about it or come to concrete conclusions about it either! Good luck to you all :) 

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On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 9:41 PM, NeverGiveUp said:

I don't know.

Let's say that L2 is 3.29 and the index is 239.

It is still low.

It looks like the admissions office is no longer verifying GPAs like they did the previous 10-15 years. Every GPA calculation you see is self-calculated and therefore potentially wrong.

The person in question is from UBC which is a percentage school. To the best of my knowledge it's impossible to arrive at a 3.25 from a percentage school because they simply do a single GPA conversion. The 3.25 is almost certainly a miscalculation.

The person in another thread said their cumulative average is 79%

Here's some data from another thread titled "GPA calc for UBC applicants" by Another Hutz about how the University of Alberta converts percentage GPAs

81.5-82.4 = 82 range = 3.7 

80.5-81.4 = 81 range = 3.6

79.5-80.4 = 80 range = 3.5

78.5-79.4 = 79 range = 3.4

These numbers match what I've personally collected from emailing Heather in the years leading up to me applying. 

If the person in question has the same L2 as their cumulative, they'd have a 3.4. Their GPA could also be higher or lower depending on what their L2 % is. As of this date the poster has not revealed the % average for their L2. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Toad said:

It looks like the admissions office is no longer verifying GPAs like they did the previous 10-15 years. Every GPA calculation you see is self-calculated and therefore potentially wrong.

The person in question is from UBC which is a percentage school. To the best of my knowledge it's impossible to arrive at a 3.25 from a percentage school because they simply do a single GPA conversion.

The person in another thread said their cumulative average is 79%

Here's some data from another thread titled "GPA calc for UBC applicants" by Another Hutz

81.5-82.4 = 82 range = 3.7 

80.5-81.4 = 81 range = 3.6

79.5-80.4 = 80 range = 3.5

78.5-79.4 = 79 range = 3.4

These numbers match what I've personally collected from emailing Heather in the years leading up to me applying. 

That means if the person's L2 is the same as their cumulative they'd actually have a 3.4. It could also be higher or lower, but the poster has never actually posted their L2 %. 

This may be the case for some out of province students but i go to Macewan in Edmonton AB which is a letter grade school and is identical to the U of A system in that the percentages and letter grades match up.

I'm sure that what you say is true but I agree with the above poster in saying the index is an unreliable indicator.

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4 minutes ago, Grinder99 said:

This may be the case for some out of province students but i go to Macewan in Edmonton AB which is a letter grade school and is identical to the U of A system in that the percentages and letter grades match up.

I'm sure that what you say is true but I agree with the above poster in saying the index is an unreliable indicator.

The main point of confusion for most people who go to % schools is that the University of Alberta doesn't convert each course individually. They calculate your overall % average for the last 2 years and then do a single conversion.

If a person does not know this fact and they attempt to convert their GPA to the UofA scale they're almost always going to be wrong. 

And I agree that the index is unreliable on the basis of three factors:

(1) We don't know with 100% confidence if the UofA uses that formula

(2) Even if they do, we have to rely on self-calculated GPAs which are often wrong.

(3) It's probably less reliable for borderline applicants

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11 minutes ago, Toad said:

The main point of confusion for most people who go to % schools is that the University of Alberta doesn't convert each course individually. They calculate your overall % average for the last 2 years and then do a single conversion.

If a person does not know this fact and they attempt to convert their GPA to the UofA scale they're almost always going to be wrong. 

And I agree that the index is unreliable on the basis of three factors:

(1) We don't know with 100% confidence if the UofA uses that formula

(2) Even if they do, we have to rely on self-calculated GPAs which are often wrong.

(3) It's probably less reliable for borderline applicants

If applying from the UofA do they calculate your GPA by adding each courses gpa and dividing by 20, or do they take what the registrar posts at the bottom, as one of my years my GPA was 109.3 grade points/30 = 3.64, but the registrar just stated 3.6 on my transcript, effectively reducing my gpa 

 

 

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On 3/3/2019 at 1:39 AM, Grinder99 said:

241.75, if i have to apply next cycle i will most likely be above 242 though.

You will get in later.

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