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Hi all. Just another school comparison question. I’ve recently been accepted to Calgary for this upcoming year and am waiting/hoping for an acceptance from U of A as well. I currently live in Edmonton, but I think I’d like to work in Calgary. I’m thinking about which one I’d like to attend so if given the choice I will already have the answer  

If anyone could chime in with their thoughts of both schools and their respective pro’s/cons that would be great. 

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I'm in the opposite boat as you are! I've been accepted to the UofA but live in Calgary and am still hoping for acceptance from the UofC.

I don't have any meaningful advice, honestly, I just thought that was kind of funny.

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U of A has the better national reputation...

but I think that counts for very little.  If you think You'd like to live and work in Calgary U of C is the better choice.  Not that attending U of A is a bad choice, just U of C is a bit better for Calgary recruiting.

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Uninformed opinion of an outsider to the legal market in the West: I'd go to UofA.

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If I went to U of A would I be at a meaningful disadvantage in comparison to a U of C student for Calgary positions? (I realize this is a hard thing to predict, this is all new to me)

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1 hour ago, bigfudge2017 said:

If I went to U of A would I be at a meaningful disadvantage in comparison to a U of C student for Calgary positions? (I realize this is a hard thing to predict, this is all new to me)

This is hard to say, because certainly U of A does place a lot of students in Calgary.  It's by no means a bad school to attend even if you want to head south along the QE2 after graduation.

But yes, I would say there is a small but noticeable advantage to attending U of C if your intent is to practice in Calgary.

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2 hours ago, bigfudge2017 said:

If I went to U of A would I be at a meaningful disadvantage in comparison to a U of C student for Calgary positions? (I realize this is a hard thing to predict, this is all new to me)

I would look at the Calgary large firm websites articling student profiles to get an idea of where the students come from. Although there may be a bit of selection bias since presumably more UofA students want to come south than vice-versa (i.e UofC may be overrepresented since UofC students are more likely to want to practice in Calgary in the first place). There were 8 UofC students and 0 UofA students when I summered at a large international firm in Calgary. FWIW it could be the opposite at the firm next door, I really have no clue.

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7 hours ago, Malicious Prosecutor said:

This is hard to say, because certainly U of A does place a lot of students in Calgary.  It's by no means a bad school to attend even if you want to head south along the QE2 after graduation.

But yes, I would say there is a small but noticeable advantage to attending U of C if your intent is to practice in Calgary.

thank you for the input, I really appreciate it! say I were to change my mind in the future and want to practice elsewhere in Canada, at that point would you say the perception between UAlberta and UCalgary is negligible? I just dont want to box myself in if say in the future, I want to pursue opportunities elsewhere since what I want today might not be what I want in 5 years. 

5 hours ago, MinesAndMinerals said:

I would look at the Calgary large firm websites articling student profiles to get an idea of where the students come from. Although there may be a bit of selection bias since presumably more UofA students want to come south than vice-versa (i.e UofC may be overrepresented since UofC students are more likely to want to practice in Calgary in the first place). There were 8 UofC students and 0 UofA students when I summered at a large international firm in Calgary. FWIW it could be the opposite at the firm next door, I really have no clue.

thank you, thats a really good idea actually!  thats something I will be doing soon. How did you find your summering experience to be? 

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On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 7:46 AM, bigfudge2017 said:

If I went to U of A would I be at a meaningful disadvantage in comparison to a U of C student for Calgary positions? (I realize this is a hard thing to predict, this is all new to me)

I really think the U of A vs U of C thing is a wash for competition in either market. Though if you intend to attend all recruitment events in Calgary, it's nice not to have to travel 3 hours to get there.

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7 hours ago, setto said:

I really think the U of A vs U of C thing is a wash for competition in either market. Though if you intend to attend all recruitment events in Calgary, it's nice not to have to travel 3 hours to get there.

like you're saying it shouldn't matter either way?

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13 hours ago, bigfudge2017 said:

like you're saying it shouldn't matter either way?

I can't say it that definitively, but I didn't get the impression that any of my colleagues at U of A had any difficulty interviewing and getting hired in Calgary.

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thanks! honestly from what i've gathered, the difference between them is small, so the best option for me might be to stay in edmonton, live with my parents and save the 1000+ on rent, food, bills etc i would be spending monthly and keep my debt as low as possible

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You can't go wrong with either option, and the potential savings of living with parents may tip the scales in favour of UofA. The prevailing advice on these boards seems to be that UofA and UofC have equal access to the Calgary market, and I don't think that's accurate.

For reference: https://law.ucalgary.ca/future-students/why-ucalgary-law

"In 2018, our students received approximately 50% of positions being offered in the national Calgary market first-year recruit for summer 2018 positions. The next highest law school had approximately 14% of the market."

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Yeah I received a promo email for admitted students from UCalgary that said the same thing ^ 

im assuming the next highest school with 14% is U of A. I’ll have to go thru the firm websites and see the split between A and C, and then try and figure out how much of that difference is due to the U of C being better in Calgary and how much is that U of A students generally don’t want to go to Calgary or some other factor? 

If I do stay in Edmonton, I know the firm salaries are lower but have bonuses/incentives that raise the base compensation higher so it’s not like staying in Edmonton is bad either 

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The salary differences between Calgary and Edmonton are surprisingly large:

https://www.zsa.ca/salary-guide/

UofA has a stranglehold on the Edmonton market and a lot of students decide to stay there. Although UofA has a bigger class size than UofC (160 vs. 130 per year), there are probably more students from UofC that are interested in the Calgary market, so that  impacts the respective placement rates.

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