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Hi everyone! 😊


So I am going to write my LSAT on Sep 8 2018 (yes, in 2 days, LOL). I graduated about 1 year ago and am now working full-time. I work really long hours so I haven't been studying a lot so I find myself really unprepared. Also, I am also going to register for the Nov exam. 


My performance in the practice test is really poor... It actually takes me an hour just to finish one section and I still score ~50% in LR only, 80% in RC and LG 😔 


I really want to apply for the JD/MBA program or just the JD program at UofT / Osgoode / Queens. Buï»żt honestly my stats are not very competitive, I know there are so many candidates out there with impressive stats (Â đŸ€•Â ) 

CGPA: 3.53
L2: 3.48
L3: 3.58
B2: 3.67
B3: 3.63


1. Given my BAD performance in the practice test, should I still submit my Sep score to the schools that I'm applying to since most of them look at all the attempts? Assuming that I'll do better in Nov? 


2. If I cancel my Sep score and submit my Nov score, will I even get a chance to get into UofT since I'll miss the the 1st round of offers?


Thank you so much for any advice / input! 😊

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If it's taking you an hour to write your LSAT sections and you're still hugely underperforming, I can't in good faith recommend writing the LSAT in a couple days. Since I assume it's paid for and non-refundable, you may as well use it as a practice, but I wouldn't want to be submitting that score. But this is all your call.


And as to the thread title, I can guarantee you nobody has gotten into UofT (or any law school) with a November LSAT, but this is also me being a pedantic asshole about the fact that this is the first time ever a November LSAT has been administered.

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Based on what you’re telling us here, it seems that you’re PTing in the mid-high 150s range while taking one hour to complete each section. Unless luck is on your side, you should realistically expect to score somewhere in the 140s range if you decide to write the real thing when you take into account the cut in time as well as test-day nerves. If you know that having a low score or a cancel on your record will mess with your mind, then I would recommend withdrawing. Otherwise, it is up to you whether or not you want to try the exam to sort of get a “feel of the atmosphere” which I’ve heard helped some students feel a little more relaxed on their second attempt. You already paid for the exam, so if you feel it’ll benefit you, then you may as well take it considering the fact that you can take the exam as many times as you wish and that law schools in Ontario only care about your highest score. Besides, you can always cancel the score if you feel you bombed which is totally fine if it happens once. A cancel on your record (or even a low score) with the addition of a high score will not impact your application in a negative way other than missing the first round of offers. Nevertheless, if you don’t do well in September, you’re probably going to miss the first round of offers anyway... especially for U of T. Since your B3 of 3.63 is well below the median, it likely would’ve taken an LSAT score above U of T’s median of 166/167 to get an early offer which seems highly unlikely in your situation. Many people get accepted after the November/December scores are released, so don’t worry too much about that. 


Scoring in the 150s (even if one section takes an hour) usually means that you’ve got a decent grasp of the basics and that you just need to work on strengthening your skills to a more advanced level. Obviously, in your situation, you also have to work on speed. LR is a very learnable section of the exam, so if you take the time to learn the concepts and drill, drill, drill... you’ll eventually get the hang of it. If you’re also able to keep drilling LG till you consistently get -0 or at least in the 20-23 range, you’re in a good spot. An increase in speed usually comes with repetition and having your skills become second nature, so try to make that type of improvement feel more gradual rather than rushing it because it’ll benefit you in the long run. Getting at least 80% on each section (on time of course) will put you at least in the mid 160s which will boost the hell out of your chances compared to a score in the 140s-150s range. However, because of your B3, you would probably need at least a 170 to boost your chances for U of T alone which is pretty tough, but definitely possible. If it doesn’t matter which school you want to go to, then with your current stats, a mid-high 160 score should suffice... but obviously aim for higher. Best of luck, I know you can do it!

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Don't write in September. Just cancel BEFORE you write the exam, it will never show up in any capacity. Study hard and write in November. If you take an hour to finish a section and still screw half of it up, there is no way you will end up with a competitive score. I wrote my LSAT in December and I am currently sitting in the UofT Law Library :), there is no problem with writing a later LSAT. 

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On 9/7/2018 at 3:12 PM, Prospero said:

I am currently sitting in the UofT Law Library

Sounds tremendous my friend. 

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