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30 minutes ago, providence said:

Yep, math time... the remaining 192 students who are not top 30% are not all B students... some are C students. Also I doubt 100% of them want Bay either. So the chances for a B student to make Bay would be higher than 21%.

U of T has a more expensive degree and arguably a more competitive class and not everyone there makes it onto Bay either, so I'm not sure what the argument is. No school can guarantee you a Bay Street job, assuming that you really end up wanting one. 

You can do your own math and come up with a number, and I could just as easily poke holes in it. Estimates are only made for people to have an idea of what they are getting into.

For someone coming into law school who has no idea where they stand on the curve, the odds just aren't in your favour for Bay Street. You need to account for this risk factor in your decision making process when you choose a school. You might have been one of the smartest kids in your undergrad, but so was everyone else that will be on that curve with you. You might even be in that top 30%, but the firms don't like you for whatever reason and you don't get hired.

Picking better job prospects with no guarantees at Bay street over a better social life and less debt might not fit your risk tolerance. Choose accordingly!

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14 minutes ago, Kemair said:

You can do your own math and come up with a number, and I could just as easily poke holes in it. Estimates are only made for people to have an idea of what they are getting into.

For someone coming into law school who has no idea where they stand on the curve, the odds just aren't in your favour for Bay Street. You need to account for this risk factor in your decision making process when you choose a school. You might have been one of the smartest kids in your undergrad, but so was everyone else that will be on that curve with you. You might even be in that top 30%, but the firms don't like you for whatever reason and you don't get hired.

Picking better job prospects with no guarantees at Bay street over a better social life and less debt might not fit your risk tolerance. Choose accordingly!

Well, exactly. You can go to any law school and not get onto Bay. You can go to any law school and discover there's something you'd rather do than be on Bay. You might not get onto Bay but then another great opportunity presents itself that turns out to be a better fit. Bay is not as competitive or difficult as some of the other things you might rather do, and there are a number of factors that go into who is hired, not only grades.

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9 minutes ago, providence said:

Well, exactly. You can go to any law school and not get onto Bay. You can go to any law school and discover there's something you'd rather do than be on Bay. You might not get onto Bay but then another great opportunity presents itself that turns out to be a better fit. Bay is not as competitive or difficult as some of the other things you might rather do, and there are a number of factors that go into who is hired, not only grades.

Yeah. I wish the stuff I wanted to do was only as competitive as bay street hiring..

 

Not that it isn't. But it's good to remind prospective students that bay isn't a gold standard really. Maybe it is for business law, but even then NYC really is (depending on practice area). It's more.. the silver standard? Which is to say still a great standard, but if you're smart enough and do well then there are so many other doors open for you...

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