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OLSAS B3 3.87, LSAT Best 163

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Should I even bother paying the fee to apply to U of T?

CGPA - 3.87 (non-OLSAS), 3.83 (OLSAS)

B3 - 3.87 (OLSAS), 3.91 (non-OLSAS)

Im above the cgpa median but below even the 25th percentile LSAT.

Did undergrad at Rotman (I heard they will consider degree but likely will not matter).

EC include - Executive pre-law group, accounting B4 experience (summer internship), other executive positions.

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Your B3 is good, but yeah the LSAT is low for UofT, 166 is generally the cutoff. But hey, people hail mary that application every year and if you write a killer personal statement, you might be able to overcome the LSAT score.

 

Really depends how confident you are that your PS will wow the adcom.

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30 minutes ago, Draken said:

Your B3 is good, but yeah the LSAT is low for UofT, 166 is generally the cutoff. But hey, people hail mary that application every year and if you write a killer personal statement, you might be able to overcome the LSAT score.

 

Really depends how confident you are that your PS will wow the adcom.

Wasn't the median lsat 166 last cycle?

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25 minutes ago, piglet2017 said:

Wasn't the median lsat 166 last cycle?

Yes, therefore the standard for a competitive applicant is 166, any less and you start to see a significant drop in likelihood of admission.

 

What does the median tell you? Nothing except the score in the middle of their admission band was a 166. That could mean that the band could have looked like this 164, 164 ,165, 165, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166 , 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166 167, 167, 168, 171, 171, 171, 171,175, 180, 180, 180, 180.

In U of T's case, it is much more likely that 166 is towards the lower score (and more common) of their accepted applicants given the quality of their potential pool.

I'm not telling the guy not to apply, but temper expectations. I'm sure we can find a lot of people in last year's rejected thread with comparable scores.

Case in point, a B3 3.68 LSAT 168 and a B3 3.5 LSAT 173. Both comparable to our OP, both rejected last year.

 

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lol its not that serious. I guess I just interpreted your comment to mean that 166 is the lsat floor (which it is not). 

Good luck to OP! 

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I know someone who got into u of t with a 158 because they had a really good PS. So go for it!

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17 hours ago, janegu said:

I know someone who got into u of t with a 158 because they had a really good PS. So go for it!

How late in the cycle were they accepted and what was their B3?

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they had a 4.19/4.3 and not sure when they were accepted in terms of their cycle

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On 11/10/2017 at 9:40 PM, Draken said:

Yes, therefore the standard for a competitive applicant is 166, any less and you start to see a significant drop in likelihood of admission.

 

What does the median tell you? Nothing except the score in the middle of their admission band was a 166. That could mean that the band could have looked like this 164, 164 ,165, 165, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166 , 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166, 166 167, 167, 168, 171, 171, 171, 171,175, 180, 180, 180, 180.

In U of T's case, it is much more likely that 166 is towards the lower score (and more common) of their accepted applicants given the quality of their potential pool.

I'm not telling the guy not to apply, but temper expectations. I'm sure we can find a lot of people in last year's rejected thread with comparable scores.

Case in point, a B3 3.68 LSAT 168 and a B3 3.5 LSAT 173. Both comparable to our OP, both rejected last year.

 

This is entirely conjecture. Might be true. But it's conjecture. This would unnecessarily discourage, say, 164 or 165s from applying. Is the 25th percentile published? That would be somewhat helpful.

 

I think of it this way: if U of T is the school you want to go to, and you're not crazy uncompetitive (OP is not) then apply. 90 dollars is really nothing in the grand scheme of things (and if it is, which it can be, I'm pretty sure u of t offers to waive it in some circumstances).

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12 hours ago, pzabbythesecond said:

This is entirely conjecture. Might be true. But it's conjecture. This would unnecessarily discourage, say, 164 or 165s from applying. Is the 25th percentile published? That would be somewhat helpful.

 

I think of it this way: if U of T is the school you want to go to, and you're not crazy uncompetitive (OP is not) then apply. 90 dollars is really nothing in the grand scheme of things (and if it is, which it can be, I'm pretty sure u of t offers to waive it in some circumstances).

25th percentile last year was 164.

https://www.law.utoronto.ca/admissions/jd-admissions/admissions-policies

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Ah, well alright. If I were OP I would still apply. This is corny, but you'll never know if you don't try. Then you might kick yourself for a while after thinking what if.

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