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So here is the dilemma. If you tell potential employers that you will be going to law school in September, they probably won't hire you. On the other hand, if they ask, and you don't tell them the truth, well than you have just obviously lied. If they know that you're in school, than I think they will certainly ask what your plans are once it is done. What would you guys recommend one does in this kind of situation? 

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What type of job are looking for? Are working in construction, cutting grass, or painting houses beneath your dignity? These are jobs covered largely by students in the summer months.

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I have no ethical issue with dilemmas like this: an employer will kick you out just as fast as you'll kick them out.

 

If you're worried about/trying to get work references, then I'd be candid. Otherwise, tell them you're considering it.

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What type of job are looking for? Are working in construction, cutting grass, or painting houses beneath your dignity? These are jobs covered largely by students in the summer months.

It's a job that would prefer a longer-term commitment, and has an equal number of workers throughout the entire year. It's also the best option money-wise, and I really want it lol. 

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It's a job that would prefer a longer-term commitment, and has an equal number of workers throughout the entire year. It's also the best option money-wise, and I really want it lol. 

I agree with muffins. Take the job and quit. Quitting is your prerogative. Just don't expect a reference. 

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So you guys say I should just directly lie to the managers face? I definitely don't care about the reference, but it still feels wrong.

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Just have the attitude that every thing in life is tentative--including your desire to attend law school. Maybe you will want to stick with the job if it is so amazing that an employer would want you to make a long-term commitment from day one. Who knows. 

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Just have the attitude that every thing in life is tentative--including your desire to attend law school. Maybe you will want to stick with the job if it is so amazing that an employer would want you to make a long-term commitment from day one. Who knows. 

That's a perspective - I'll definitely have to put a bit more thought into this.

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Agree with Erinl2 on this one.  If your potential employer asks you about your future plans, it would be pretty shitty to lie to them about your plans to attend law school.  It might never affect you/your career, but it's just wrong. 

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I definitely agree with both of you on this one. It is wrong. It feels like an unfortunate and unfair situation, but it is what it is. 

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Don't lie about it.  Even if there is no reference word of mouth is a thing and you want your reputation.

 

If they ask state that you applied/thinking about it.

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That's a perspective - I'll definitely have to put a bit more thought into this.

 

Go with your gut on this one, as there probably won't be any consequences aside from how easy you're able to sleep at night after whatever course of action you go with. 

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If they ask you: are you going back to school in sept, say that you're considering it. Life is tentative. If you won the $50m lotto max tomorrow, would you be in 1L in September? Maybe you'll love this job and pass on LS. Who knows.

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It's a harsh world out there. I've had employers screw me over by implying a job was long-term when they obviously had no intention of hiring permanently, so I guess I'm a bit jaded about this shit by now; I've come to realize that employers don't give a shit about low-level employees. Look out for yourself first.

 

So no, don't lie directly; that's never a good idea. But feel free to be vague. Unless they directly ask you, you don't owe it to them to divulge your future plans.

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It's a harsh world out there. I've had employers screw me over by implying a job was long-term when they obviously had no intention of hiring permanently, so I guess I'm a bit jaded about this shit by now; I've come to realize that employers don't give a shit about low-level employees. Look out for yourself first.

 

So no, don't lie directly; that's never a good idea. But feel free to be vague. Unless they directly ask you, you don't owe it to them to divulge your future plans.

 

 

This is what I meant to say. Omph probably communicated it better than I did. I wouldn't lie because lying isn't right. But I would follow the advice above. I've been screwed the same way before and so have many others. You cover your ass first. 

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It's a harsh world out there. I've had employers screw me over by implying a job was long-term when they obviously had no intention of hiring permanently, so I guess I'm a bit jaded about this shit by now; I've come to realize that employers don't give a shit about low-level employees. Look out for yourself first.

 

So no, don't lie directly; that's never a good idea. But feel free to be vague. Unless they directly ask you, you don't owe it to them to divulge your future plans.

 

This is so true. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. 

 

Edit: I've seen so many people screwed over by employers who knew from day one that they weren't going to keep the person on a long term basis, but gave them the impression they would if they were happy with the job they were doing. Chances are they won't give a shit about you. You don't have to be a saint. 

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This is what I meant to say. Omph probably communicated it better than I did. I wouldn't lie because lying isn't right. But I would follow the advice above. I've been screwed the same way before and so have many others. You cover your ass first. 

 

Exactly.

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Yeah you guys are definitely right. It's best to omit it, and if asked, to be indirect, vague and uncertain about my future plans. 

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I think this dilemma will teach you some invaluable lawyering skills ;)

 

Either way, I wouldn't lie directly, as I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing I intentionally misled someone. However, if you take the job and the day comes where you have to quit, you could always say "I applied, thought I had no chance as I was on the wait list, and JUST heard back!."

 

I also doubt an employer will realistically expect you to quit on your dream of law school. After all, while they'd be likely to omit information themselves, they're still human and will likely understand (and perhaps wish you well) when you make a step towards improving your future. Best of luck regardless!

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