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  1. 29? Barring excellent extracurriculars, you likely won't get an interview. Law is also more than just being good at a debate. You may have a chance at Sherbrooke or Laval. Ottawa if you have an 80 or above. My recommendation is to get an undergrad in any field that you're interested in (balancing career potential), build experiences, gain work experience, and apply to law after if you're still interested thereafter.
  2. Small firm in small city Ontario. CPD, lawpro and LSO paid for by firm. The people that I know who pay their own fees invoice the firm for their services (basically, a regular and or exclusive contract). They claim their fees and get the tax advantage from it. Talk to your accountant but mine told me that whoever paid the fees can claim the expense. My partner, for example, is a member of a professional order, a public employee, and still pays his own order fees. He hasn't had any issues claiming it.
  3. I have been summoned? Also, nice to see me responding in a thread from 2013 without being a jerk. Hey, there is some progress right there! Getting in law straight from CEGEP is a tough sell at McGill. You need to have 30+ Cote R AND some pretty good extracurriculars, while also working closely with professors for your reference letters. Get involved in something that you're passionate about, whether it's being in a leadership position with your student council, volunteering (in a meaningful capacity) at a charity/group, while maintaining high grades. From what I recall, the CEGEPers while I was in law school were all involved in a leadership role in a club and had some pretty good volunteering roles. A few model UNs, some had their own businesses, others were involved in organizing food and clothing drives, etc. Less impressive than the undergrad admits, but it's a different category of applicant. That said, it's fairly competitive. You also really need to nail the "Why law" and specifically "Why law at McGill". My advice to the OP remains the same - it's not the end of the world if you do an undergrad degree first! The trend at the UdM seems to show more people are applying to law with an undergrad degree rather than just straight from CEGEP.
  4. OP has not logged in since May 19, 2018. You may want to contact the school.
  5. Can confirm that my grades didn't stop me from working/becoming a lawyer. Volunteer and get as much practical experience as possible. You do not necessarily have to rely on the campus volunteer positions - your law school town likely has various social organizations where you can receive some training and volunteer as a case worker. The most fun I had during law school (besides my clubs) was interning (then volunteering) at a housing/poverty organization. It also gave me practical experience/client interaction training that I was able to leverage during my article search. Some provinces also have programs specifically for certain areas of law. Ontario law students were drafting family court documents with Legal Aid. 1L hiring isn't that normal in Ontario. I looked at your history and see that you're that U of A. 1L hiring is more common. I do know people who ended in the Alberta market at the articling stage. There are "law-adjacent" positions in various organizations. I worked for the Feds for my 1L summer. You're a student so organizations can also take advantage of grants when hiring students. Friends of mine were able to create positions for themselves that way. For more creative RA positions, look at some postings in other departments, or professors whether they have colleagues who require a law student for research. The faculty of Education hired a few law students every year to do research.
  6. I thought my answer was pretty clear about my opinion.... Not sure how many times I called the people who might care "jerks", but I digress I do remember a couple of people who received accommodations - one was a close friend, and another was a student who was vocal about her accommodations in order to break the stigma. I heard murmurs from people about how it was "unfair" that someone had accommodations. Groups are small enough that you can certainly recognize when someone is not around. We've had the fair share of discussions online as well. With some digging, you'd probably find some student newspaper op ed about why they're unfair. I also feel you're reading more into Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's statement. I view it as "word might get around". I agree with that - that IS a risk. Is it a big risk? Probably not. I'm not going to lie to OP and say people don't remember their colleagues from LS or what they may or may not remember. Law school has a bunch of hyper intelligent people who remember small tidbits about people. Same thing when one guy said I looked unprofessional for attending class in ripped skinny jean shorts (jokes on them - I looked FIERCE). Perhaps that is what people remember me by. Others might be "Artsydork? Never heard of him". I'd like to think that I'm not a sociopath, but one memory I have is from 1L (so August 2009) during our "Law week" we were playing "Never Have I Ever" and one woman wished to skip her turn as she didn't want to share anything that could be perceived as embarassing (despite listening through several rounds of others (over)sharing). I have another random memory from 2L where one student stated that she didn't want to do group work in property (it was one assignment out of 3, where it was worth like 5% combined) because "it messed with the curve". I hear their names and this pops up as my memories. Memories are weird that way.
  7. But like... You're not everyone? Also, Eeeeeee didn't give their own opinion - they just said that some classmates might remember and be in an influential position later. That's true in life. Law circles can be pretty small. It's a valid concern that OP has. There are jerks who remember. I remember the jerks who used to walk around ranting about how accomodations were unfair even though it was 5+ years ago. Mind you, one in particular made other comments which is why they stand out. It wouldn't surprise me if a few misinformed jerks (and that's what they are, in case my opinion wasn't clear) remembered/noticed. It is a possibility. It is very low. OP is waaaay better off going for the accomodation and not caring what classmates might think. It can potentially run a snide remark to a hiring partner down the line. But the stress/anxiety or lowered marks from not being on a level playing field due to a learning disability is much worse than the potential that someone remembers. Tldr; employers can't ask. Low chance that a random colleague might remember. Fuck them and do what helps in bringing your best foot forward.
  8. 100% final was banned at McGill while I was there. Each school is different in how classes are graded. McGill has essays, final exams, group projects, poetry slams, etc. McGill used the McGill style. In practice, no one seems to care so long as you're consistent. For Ontario, the BAR is self-directed study. You can take a course through private companies. I echo @Malicious Prosecutor on canlii. There are case digests as well. Plus a bunch of lawyers write blogs on interpretation of cases.
  9. London literally had a somewhat active white power movement. Also, "there are diverse people in my school so no one cares!" is stupid. I'm a McGill grad. Gayest city in Canada (nice try, Toronto.) Even there, the "well meaning" and "I don't see race/orientation" people would always comment, "Wow, there are soooooo many gay people here!" because we were maybe 15-20 out of a class of 170. Or "OMG, this is a gay class" because we were 4-5 homos in the same room. Comments made because the gaggle of gays would hang out with one another ("Lol, do you even have hetero friends!?") It's tiring, y'all. I echo @Hegdis
  10. I went to law school with the goal of working in policy. I write this now from my office in private practice. It's not easy to jump into the policy recruitment. The many, many MPP/MPA/MPPPA grads generally have internship experiences built into their programs and are feeder programs to many policy positions. The JD designation won't really help you stand out as many entry-level recruitment consider the Masters students as equivalent. Why spend an arm and a leg on the JD degree when a 1-2 year program does it (and better for policy).
  11. They aren't. I have a few friends who were accepted from Concordia during the Dec admit. I was accepted at the end of Jan from a 4.3 background. There are a few different conversion calculators online that you can play with.
  12. Brydges hotline (or your provincial version of it) seems up your alley. There are also various tele legal shops that generally offer summary legal advice (Sykes comes to mind) that may have work-from-home options. Be prepared for rough hours though.
  13. Federation of Law Societies of Canada has a list of 1-year programs. On the top of my head, I know that some of the Common Law schools have arrangements with QC schools. You can also apply independently to the 1 year programs at Sherbrooke and UdM. Scroll through the school websites and you'll find the info.
  14. Talk to a "mature" ambassador if possible. Unless the definition changed (and it might have since I was a student), mature category was for people who have been out of school for X amount of time.
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