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  1. I had very similar stats. Seems like you just had a really bad first year like me lol 😢 CGPA 3.58, B3 3.78, B2 3.77 - 3.81 ish (depending on which years are used bc i didn't take 5 courses in my final year), L2 3.8+. LSAT 161 Got into western, queens, ottawa. Rejected from uoft. Still waiting to hear back from osgoode. I didn't take an extra year off and I was really set on UofT.. Part of me wishes I did another year of undergrad but then again there is no guarantee even if I did that I would have gotten into UofT, so it didn't make sense for me. My opinion: If you are aiming for western/queens/ottawa you should be set if you get a 160+ on your LSAT. What would your B3/CGPA/B2 be if you took an extra year? Try to calculate it using lawschoolapplicants.ca and try your best to be as realistic as possible based on what you think you can achieve (maybe do a worst case, a most likely case, and a best case scenario). If the most likely case raises it by a substantial amount and if you are set on UofT/Osgoode then maybe its worth it. Also would this give you more time to study for the LSAT? That might be another reason to take an extra year. Also would it allow you to gain better extra curricular experience? ECs/your personal statement are pretty important esp when it comes to UofT/Osgoode. Even if you don't take an extra year and do well on your LSAT you can most def get into western, queens, and ottawa. If you do super well on your LSAT (165+) then Osgoode too, and if you do amazing (170+) then maybe UofT too.
  2. My offer letter says my Western acceptance goes firm on July 1st, and a non-refundable deposit of $500 is due June 1st!
  3. Does anyone know roughly how many spots are left at this point?
  4. Honestly picked it mostly because it's a bit closer to home & i knew more people there. The course offerings are def a bonus. I felt the same way - initially thought Western was the obvious choice for corporate law but then once I looked into it more they seemed very evenly matched. Ultimately just came down to where I felt more comfortable for me.
  5. I was in the same position and picked Western. Super close call tho. I spoke to many people, even a partner at a seven sister firm, and they all said there is no wrong choice. The 2L recruitment numbers for Bay St jobs seem to be more or less the same. I heard the marking/grading distribution is a bit more favourable at Queens but since you're compared to everyone in your class for first round of interviews it doesn't matter much for jobs. They both have a business law clinic and other similar programs if you don't get into the business law clinic. Western seemed to have more corporate focused courses in upper years but Queens had plenty as well. One big difference is for Western it is much harder to get into the JD/MBA. You have to defer your admission by a year and start in March and you need 2 years of work experience. At Queens you can apply in 1L and from what I gathered it is less competitive (can still get in without the work experience), but I would confirm with Queens if this is a big factor for you. Apparently the JD/MBA provides a slight edge in recruitment (esp if you have lower grades in 1L it's nice to know that you can still do the JD/MBA and stand out that way).
  6. Yeah that makes sense ugh. Most of my profs also taught MBA classes and would always tell us that the Bcom program is more difficult as well. Also, I was thinking if I can't do the dual rn I might apply for a MBA from Rotman or something once I get a few years of work experience under my belt. Ik Rotman offers a 1 year executive MBA (I think some other schools do as well). Not sure if it's something you've considered but it may be a good option for you too!
  7. Thanks so much for the valuable advice! I am pretty set on big law and I think you're right, the dual would be a good option. I called Western today and they said they do require 2 years (or close to 2 years) of work experience and I would have to defer my admission by a year since the MBA program starts in March.. so I guess that isn't an option anymore Still waiting for Queens to get back to me tho.
  8. I was def interested in the JD/MBA but wasn't 100% sold when I applied since I have an undergraduate commerce degree from Rotman. I wasn't sure how beneficial it would be for me to go straight into an MBA without any full time-work experience. Do you think it's still worth it? And if I am able to get into the JD/MBA at Queens but not Western, would you recommend picking Queens?
  9. I copied and pasted what i saw on their website below! Did ur friend go to Ivey for their undergrad? Someone told me if you are already an Ivey HBA student you may not need the 2 years of work experience(?) not 100% sure I'll probably call to get clarification on the whole JD/MBA thing . I'll reply to this post if I find out! Applicants should demonstrate: Leadership Potential: Demonstrated through professional, volunteer, or community initiatives and/or interests and passions Quality Work Experience: Minimum of two years of full-time experience (typical average is four years) Strong Academic Record: Demonstrated by a solid undergraduate average and GMAT of 600+ (Note: candidates with LSAT scores of 160+ may use their LSAT score in lieu of writing a GMAT) https://www.ivey.uwo.ca/mba/academics/combined-jdmba-degree/
  10. Thank you so much for the detailed reply!! So much helpful info here. The JD/MBA is something I was considering. I wish Western didn't have that 2 year min work experience requirement. I know Osgoode doesn't. Also not sure I would be an "exceptional applicant" for Queens either but at least it somewhat keeps that door open.
  11. Thanks for your reply! Wow I didn't know they just compare you to those in your school I always thought they compared everyone who applied from all schools. If possible, could you provide more details about this? Is there a certain range of people they take from each school every year or something? Does this mean it's significantly more advantageous to go to a school where you are more likely to stand out rather than one where you would be average?
  12. LOOL smh I just have a lot of time on my hands these days 😭 😂 stay at home order is noot helping
  13. Hey guys, Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on Western VS Queens for corporate law. I know theres other threads on here but I was hoping someone could speak about the grade distribution. I copied and pasted some info I found on their websites below but found it hard to compare bc 1. idk how many small section/seminar courses a Queen's student usually takes, 2. they reported the median for queens and mean for western (but it seems like a normal distribution maybe it is fair to compare??) 😭 From what I have heard that the curve is higher at Queen's - can someone confirm/explain this. Also, is this something employers look at (is a B+ at Queen's considered less favourable than a B+ at Western). Ik grades are super important for Bay St placements so this is a big consideration for me. Any other advice would also be appreciated! Thanks! QUEENS: In lecture courses (i.e. courses other than seminars and small sections), B is the median grade, no more than 20% of students are awarded grades of A or A-, and no more than 20% of students are awarded grades of C+ or lower; In first year small section courses and upper year seminar courses, B or B+ is the median grade, no more than 30% of students are awarded grades of A or A-, and no more than 20% of students are awarded grades of C+ or lower. A = 4.0 A- = 3.7-3.9 B+ = 3.3-3.69 B = 3.0-3.29 B- = 2.7 - 2.9 WESTERN: The class average in an upper-year course of 25 or fewer students must be between 74.0 – 79.0. The class average in an upper-year course of more than 25 students and in all first-year courses must be between 74.0 – 76.0. Grades in the “F” range will be excluded from the calculation of class averages. These grading rules do not apply to independent research projects, supplemental writing credits, courses in which students participate in external advocacy competitions, or to internships or externships with fewer than five enrolled students. A+ Excellent 90-100 A Excellent 85-89 A- Excellent 80-84 B+ Good 77-79 B Good 73-76 B- Good 70-72
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