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  1. Well I am put in this embarrassing position because relocating was not part of my plan when I commenced my PCLL studies a few months ago - mostly because as what you said, HK does provide better opportunity in the legal field, so there is no harm in qualifying in HK first. But as situation changes and with the new immigration policies, I have come to realise that I do not want to stay in HK any longer. And from what I have learnt so far, the Canadian legal market is extremely protectionist (as in firms prefer local-educated students much more), so while completing a TC and qualifying in HK first does have some merits, it would not be a big help in developing legal career in Canada. And given the uncertainty as to the duration of the immigration policies, I came to the conclusion that it might be a better idea to do a degree in Canada first instead.
  2. Hi!! LOL I totally forgot only our school's max gpa is 4.0 haha May I ask which programme at which school did you apply to back then?
  3. I see! Thank you so much for your advice and I will do some further research and look at the different options.
  4. Thank you very much for your sharing. I have gone through your thread and looked at some of the replies, they have been really useful! I look forward to reading your update!
  5. I did consider completing my TC and get qualified in HK first but I have been told it won’t help much in finding jobs in Canada with the HK qualification and the 2-year working experience as a trainee. Also I don’t have much to lose to start afresh now (comparing to working two years in HK and with all the connections made in HK legal industry). I am rushing things a bit as things are not optimistic in HK and I intend to take advantage of the new Canadian immigration policy towards HK people - uncertain if this would still be in force two years later if I am to complete my TC first. Thank you for your reply to my questions and networking suggestions - they are very helpful! I just have two more questions: So when to take the licensing exams would be of my own preference, and firms generally don’t have specific preference/requirement? Do you know anything about the international arbitration practice in Toronto/Canada? From my research it doesn’t seem to be a popular area of practice - please correct me if I have got the wrong impression. I am very interested in international arbitration and have had some working experience in the field in HK, so I really hope that I can continue with it and build a career in the field in Canada/Toronto.
  6. Well I am just not optimistic about HK’s future - but I don’t think there will be sizeable HK lawyers/law students moving to Canada as the practical hurdle to entering the Canadian legal market is relatively high. I myself is quite worried as well. I think people would generally prefer going to the UK as our HK qualification would be more “useful” in UK.
  7. I totally agree the upgrading LLMs are cash grab lol, but they are at least cheaper/faster/easier than doing a JD. Since I am starting fresh in Canada, I see this as a means to an end for someone who only holds a foreign law degree, to get me some understanding in Canadian law to look a bit better when I apply for articling/jobs, since I do not have any working experience in Canada. That’s why I am considering the upgrading LLMs at U of T and Osgoode - I guess I must have been confused by the Osgoode website since they put the Canadian Law LLM under its professional LLM as well LOL Anyways would you say that U of T’s GPLLM and Osgoode Canadian law LLM are more or less the same, other than the crazy tuition fee at U of T? Thank you very much for your reply!
  8. Oh I should have made myself clearer - I meant I submitted application for the FlSC to evaluate my qualification to see what NCA assessments I have to complete, and I intend to complete the outstanding requirements be doing one of those two LLMs as I feel it will be helpful to know more about Canadian law rather than just studying for the sake of passing the exams. As for the timeline, is it that bigger firms only hire the summer students 2 years prior to articling and they only take applications from the central system - the viportal? In that case there is bound to be time gap if I am to start looking for articling during my LLM? And since I would like to work in arbitration, I guess I would have to join bigger firms, so would it be better for me to apply for summer schemes like those 2L students? I have heard that even though some firms know about the NCA process, they are reluctant to review/accept your application until you get the NCA cert of qualification? Then in that case I won’t be able to apply for articles until I finish the 1-year LLM? And thank you very much for your reply!
  9. It’s just something I read from this forum in relation to the OsgoodePD LLM...that’s why I am slightly concerned if that would be a mainstream view in the eyes of Toronto law firms. I intend to take advantage of the new Canadian policy to come on student visa then get PR. Well I am not going to reveal my identity but I did read posts on LIHKG
  10. Hi everyone - would appreciate it very much if you could give me some advice. By way of background, I am currently a student in Hong Kong doing the Postgraduate Certificate in Laws (a one-year programme we need to pass prior to commencing training contract or pupillage here in HK). I hold a 2:1 LLB degree from one of the 3 law schools in HK, and my GPA is around 3.3 out of 4. I am planning to relocate to Canada in 2021 and then start my legal career in Toronto. I have just applied for the NCA assessment. It’s likely to take some time to hear back as my uni has just sent my transcripts off, but it’s likely I will be at least asked to complete the 5 mandatory modules. Meanwhile I have got some questions: I intend to do the LLM designed for completing the NCA requirements instead of writing the NCA exams myself as I want to learn more about the Canadian legal system. Since I want to work in Toronto, I would like to study in Toronto as well. So naturally the question is should I choose the GPLLM at U of T or the Professional LLM at Osgoode - from what I gathered on this forum it seems people have different opinion - I have seen people saying that the GPLLM does not fit the normal timeline and people saying Osgoode is a degree mill. Could anyone give more information on this? What are my chances of getting into U of T and Osgoode? I have a pretty solid CV with loads of ECAs including mooting teams and competitions, some working/internship experience in the legal field in HK. Just want to clarify if I understand the timeline right: Assuming I got into one of the two LLMs commencing in September 2021, the first thing I should do is to look for articles, as the earliest deadlines are in September according to the law society website? And then after I finish the LLM I would have completed the NCA requirements and can commence articling? And after articling, is the final step taking the licensing exams? How hard is it to find articles these days in Toronto for students educated abroad? Does anyone have any experience? I do not know anyone practising in Canada currently. Is it usual for people to get return offers from the firms they articled at? Can anyone briefly describe how articling placement is like in Toronto? Thank you very much!
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