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  1. Accepted this afternoon with an email! Applying in my 4th year and submitted my winter grades today not sure if they saw them and made this decision but I'll put both stats here: Updated Grades submitted today CGPA: 3.48 L2/B2: 3.71 LSAT: 157 Old stats (prior to today) CGPA: 3.46 L2/B2: 3.56 LSAT: 157 Hope this gives anyone with low stats a lot of hope!
  2. I'll preface this by saying that I identify as a SNAIL but I just wanted to attach this story if no one has heard: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/university-windsor-complaint-1.5826876 https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/09/14/this-windsor-law-student-has-filed-numerous-complaints-of-anti-black-racism-against-the-school-when-the-president-showed-up-to-orientation-he-and-his-peers-took-a-stand.html And this is at an Ontario school that seems to have one of the most diverse staff and student population.
  3. Maybe I should specify what I meant by meet the same stats. Basically the difference between applying to through the BSAP stream and the regular stream is that: 1. It is guaranteed that your application is read by one Indigenous or Black person on the committee 2. You are allowed to write an additional essay on how race and your background has impacted you You are still assessed under the same academic rigor as every other candidate. I agree with you that the stats are what will really give us a full picture of what is happening but my hypothesis is in line with your option 2. My examples are a little biased towards black individuals as I am black however, looking at the class profiles of different schools, last year's incoming class for UofT was only 1% black (around two people), Western's was 0% or less than 1%, Queen's was 3% (around 6 people), Osgoode's was one of the highest with 6% and Windsor (uncoincidentally the most holistic school that also has a very diverse faculty) was at the top with 6.6%. These were from the class profiles that I was able to find. But if we are being generous for all of Ontario, I'd round it to 50 (accounting for people who didn't answer the survey etc.). That is 50 black law graduates that Ontario is producing from last year's incoming class. Again we don't know for sure without the data but I like to think that a lot more than 50 qualified black students applied to law school in Ontario last year. Obviously some may have opted out of attending an Ontario law school but the number is really startling. Maybe you may not care what the faculty looks like but some POC do. I value attending a school where the Black Law Student Association there is not just made up of 4 people out of the entire law school.
  4. I understand what you're saying but from my personal research (and as a 0L I will admit it is rather limiting), the first thing that I noticed about Ryerson Law was that their dean was a Black woman. Looking through their faculty list I saw the highest number of POCs (especially Black people) I had seen at any other law school in Ontario. May not be as important to other people but for POC it means a lot to see someone who looks like you who has advanced in the profession. You are correct, every school has made commitments to diversity and inclusion but what I see is that Ryerson has been extraordinary in fulfilling this commitment. Now, and this is a connection I draw tentatively, looking at their fulfilment in their commitment to diversity, I would say that Ryerson admissions may be different because their admissions committee may be more diverse that what you would see at other schools. And that is just my hypothesis. So no, they are are not admitting weaker candidates, and no they are are not better at it than other law schools but they may be doing things a little differently (again this is my hypothesis). Having a diverse admissions committee can really make for a diverse class that still has the same capability to be strong law students. A really good example of this was at UofT. UofT med first tried a similarly approach with their BSAP program (where it was guaranteed that if you were Black or Indigenous and applied through this pathway, at least one person reading your application would be Black or Indigenous). That year they admitted the highest number of Black students they ever had. It's important to note that all of these students had to meet the same stats of any other student admitted to the school. UofT Law adopted the same program this year for the first time too (so we will see how that turns out). But a huge barrier to POC continues to be the admissions process. However a lot of this is just speculation. It is hard to really ascertain how much of a barrier the law school admissions process is to POC without accurate data, and for now there is none. But recently OLSAS agreed to the BLSA (Black Law Students Associations) request to collect race based data so we can know for sure. So hopefully as we move forward, we can have more concrete data on diversity, inclusion and law admissions.
  5. THISS!! Ryerson's commitment to encouraging BIPOC students is so important! As a black student attending law school the stats of how many black students get in is frightening! If you just take one second to look at how many black students are admitted to your law school, its dismal. Ryerson's focus on social justice, diversity and inclusion is something I think is so needed in the law profession. We can look at the stats and see they are not admitting only low stat students who can't get in anywhere else but they are picking and choosing people who they feel can actively add to the law community. Also the Ryerson 1L class seemed to do pretty well in the recruit this year. I heard from the admissions team that they secured the same number of spots as Osgoode and UofT and outperformed several other Ontario schools. Obviously not the end all but it's promising.
  6. Hey! Just some interesting news to add to this thread. I recently got accepted into Ryerson law and I had a sit down talk with one of the admissions officers there. She informed me that Ryerson did very well in the recruit this year! They had the same number of placements as UofT and Osgoode and actually outcompeted Windsor, and one other Ontario school (can't remember which).
  7. You're stats look pretty competitive for Queens! I would put down the deposit just in case though. Admissions are still rolling out so don't think you're out of the running just because you haven't heard anything back yet!
  8. I am a soon to be 1L coming from a Biomedical Science background (nowhere near as difficult as Mech Eng but enough to deal a considerable blow to my undergrad grades and morale at the same time). I have also never taken a legal course, or anything of the sort, besides participating in one moot this term, so I am trying to judge the difficulty of law school. How would you find the workload? And also, because many of the exams are 100% final essays, did you find it was harder to score well on something that tends to be more subjective to the marker?
  9. Was writing many essays and the large amount of reading difficult for you?
  10. If you don't mind me asking what was your program?
  11. Love the analogy! And thank you, as a 0L encouraging words and guidance from other law students and lawyers make a huge difference. Definitely feeling a bit better🙂
  12. As someone who has written very few papers in their STEM university career, this entire thread scares me.
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