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  1. For articling or for a lawyer? In general, Nelligan has a strong hire back rate. They frequently hire back all or nearly all their students for articling and as lawyers (as reflected in the profiles of so many associates there).
  2. If you like working with the partner, I would take it (unless you have serious prospects elsewhere that you'd prefer)! It may well be that once you're back you'll still receive work from the other group. And, after some time, you may be able to switch into the other group if you prefer it. I know many lawyers who did just that. They were articling, received an offer to join the employment law group but actually wanted to do family law, accepted the offer and worked for 2 years, and then switched into the family law group.
  3. It's really hard to say what's "average" because it really depends student to student and how each application is. You could have a great student that presents a messy application and so doesn't get as many OCIs as maybe they otherwise would have. Also there's COVID to take account for... I don't know if firms this year have as many positions as previous years. So with all those disclaimers... I was a slightly above average student in 1L/2L. I put a decent amount of work into my applications, especially my cover letters. I think I received 8-10 OCIs and 2 offers in the end.
  4. A recruiter in Calgary once told me the same thing. We might all be thinking of the same firm LOL OP, to answer your question: It won't necessarily affect your chances. But be prepared for them to ask if you applied to their other offices (that happened to me twice). And you'll have to be ready to explain having a strong connection to both locations if you did. I know in Ottawa, firms in the past have placed (and I think still place) a pretty heavy emphasis on planning to stay in Ottawa long-term. In fact, one of my friends who is doing hiring at his firm called me up to ask about an applicant I know and what connection said applicant has to Ottawa. This was yesterday. So I think Ottawa firms still value this connection.
  5. Agree with SS624. Cold e-mailing works (I did it back when I was a law student to get my first legal position) but only if you come across as personal and interested in what the lawyer or law firm does. If your cold e-mail looks like a cookie cutter e-mail that could be for anyone, it probably won't get a reply. I actually always attached my CV to cold e-mails to give the person a chance to "size me up" before deciding whether to respond. I find busier senior lawyers don't want to make time for something they don't really have time for. But if your e-mail shows you're genuinely interested and a glance at your CV shows you're competent, that might be enough to get them to e-mail you back. In my case, it resulted in the senior lawyer and I grabbing a coffee and then next thing I knew was in!
  6. Figure out what your weaknesses are and focus your time on understanding where you tend to go wrong + doing practice tests. Also, I'd echo what @chaboywb said. Go fresh into the test so that you're testing with the best possible conditions. Sometimes resting is the most productive thing you can do.
  7. I *strongly* recommend choosing either Osgoode or Ottawa if your plan is to practice in Ontario. For the same reason I would tell a U.S. law student wanting to practice in New York to go to a New York law school rather than, say, Texas. Yes, you can get licensed in another jurisdiction and transfer your membership (it's somewhat of a pain and waiting game according to some). But you'll also probably find getting a job in Ontario either as a student or junior lawyer easier if you come from an Ontario law school. You also might find yourself spending more time researching Ontario's laws or unlearning certain aspects of the law that might be true in British Columbia, for example, but not in Ontario. Don't get me wrong. These little bumps can definitely be overcome. But I personally consider it a significant advantage to do law school in the jurisdiction you plan to practice in. Regarding mooting at uOttawa, it depends what team you try out for. I did the first-year moot, a mediation moot, a criminal law moot, and international law moot at uOttawa. Only the international law moot team, which is coached by the well-known Professor Daimsis, was somewhat difficult to get onto. But it was well worth it because that moot was the highlight of my law school career. Our team came 3rd in the world. We beat out schools like Harvard, Sorbonne, King's College London and more. More importantly, being coached by Professor Daimsis significantly improved both my written and oral advocacy. I'm really grateful for the training I got from him.
  8. Check your student website career's portal. You should find job postings for 1Ls there. That said, there are typically very few 1L positions available. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's even less now in a pandemic. The hiring period can be anywhere from November-March. Afterward, you won't see many (if any) 1L jobs come up. If you aren't able to get a 1L job at a firm, consider doing research for a professor, working as a legal assistant at a firm (plenty of law students do this before going to law school), or doing an unpaid internship with a firm. Just reach out to a firm you'd be interested in working at. Better if you have a connection to someone in the field that can help introduce you.
  9. I was in a similar situation. I was doing undergrad full-time and working 2 part-time jobs while self-studying for the LSAT. If I could offer three tips it would be: 1. Take a practice test cold so you have a sense of what you already have an aptitude for and what you don't. 2. Create a study schedule that extends all the way to your intended exam date and takes into account your strengths and weaknesses. That way your study schedule is as efficient as you can make it. I found that having a planned-out schedule helped minimize any anxiety I felt about potentially not getting through all the materials in time. 3. Focus more on practice questions and tests. But this approach's effectiveness will vary from person to person. For me, that was the best way I learned. So, in actuality, I didn't read ALL the material. I skimmed through a big chunk of it. Basically my approach to LSAT studying looked something like this. Good luck!
  10. Go to the school that aligns better with your interest area...as long as you go to school in Ontario and plan to work in Ontario, transitioning within the province isn't going to be a huge problem. Even if you go to school in Ottawa, you could summer and article elsewhere (like a smaller town if you prefer). And law school is a lot of money, so if you're going to pay the tuition, may as well pay where you think you're going to get the better education for your interest areas. I would also echo what a couple people have already said about Ottawa anyway. Ottawa, at least to me, feels very much like a small town. I wouldn't describe it as having much, if any, of a "city" feel.
  11. Honestly, don't do anything! Just enjoy your summer. Work and save money, if you can (law school is kind of expensive). But my biggest advice is to relax...you won't be doing too much of that once you start law school. Anecdotally, in my summer before law school, I think I worked 3 jobs. I was utterly exhausted when law school orientation came around. I was dragging myself into classes and didn't enjoy the first few weeks of law school until I found my rhythm. And even once I found my rhythm, your summers during law school will come with their own stress of finding a job. So, if I could go back in time, I would tell my past self to relax and enjoy as much of the summer doing what you like as you can.
  12. In general, I rarely did all the readings for all classes (not just for 1L, but law school in general). It's simply an overwhelming amount. But I usually did at least some. And I would recommend the same though I suppose it's certainly possible to do well in law school without doing any. Typically, I did readings for classes where I was having a more difficult time grasping the material and/or felt the professor's teaching left holes in my knowledge. But even if you don't do the readings throughout the semester, I would highly recommend looking through them during your exam preparation. Your exam preparation should (hopefully) give you a sense of where your knowledge lacks depth. And I would supplement your exam outlines with materials from the readings.
  13. Studying and/or working in English will naturally be one of the fastest ways to improve...especially because law involves significant new vocabulary to learn.
  14. Hi all, Does anyone have a sense of what a normal salary range would be for: First year associate Insurance defence boutique Downtown Toronto (but not a Bay street firm) Roughly 10 lawyers Obviously the COVID situation makes things sensitive as well... but honestly, I have no idea how to factor that into a negotiation. Any input is welcome.
  15. I'm not sure about how common. But plenty of lawyers practice in more than one area, so it's certainly not a problem to "switch" fields. In terms of difficulty, I suppose it depends on how different the field you plan to switch to is. For example, I know a lawyer who started in personal injury and switched to employment after 10+ years doing personal injury without a problem. I also know a lawyer who started in employment and switched to family after 2 years of practice without a problem. Naturally there will be some learning curve but if you're a competent lawyer, you'll have enough basic skills to make the switch fairly easy. Logistically, I think switching practice areas is even easier if you're working at a full-service firm. That way you have a reputation already for being a solid lawyer at the firm, you know the other lawyers in the group you want to join (hopefully), and maybe even had the chance to collaborate on files with them. In that case, as long as you get the go-ahead from management, you can basically just pack up your desk and head over to their group and start working. No need to network and go looking for a new place of employment.
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