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  1. They are definitely going to look at your first year, since you're in fourth year and thus do not have a full weighted (fourth) year to add to your second and third. I've also missed the fact that your quoted GPA is not converted to OLSAS - this can considerably affect your overall GPA/B3 calculation, and tends to have the effect of pushing your GPA down...check back with your OLSAS GPA and I think some others might be able to give a better indication of chances.
  2. I have quite similar stats (also U of T undergrad) and was passed over for 2/3 rounds this cycle. Not sure if they didn't like my essays... though I used similar ones elsewhere and got in during first round... Either way, I can't say that you're strongly competitive (at U of T) based on my experience this cycle. There's speculation that this cycle is more competitive and also another recent thread about some high stat students not getting in this cycle either 😕 Of course, you could get in so you should apply (or if you applied, save some hope!), but don't assume you're a 'lock'.
  3. unfortunately I don't as I applied to quite a few different postings...they might also change the specific title year to year, so be on the look out for when the postings go up.
  4. The Ontario government usually has one or two openings that are specifically related to law each summer through their summer student employment program. While you aren't always working side-by-side with lawyers, there are a lot of them around and they're often willing to let you shadow etc. When I did it, I was placed at a fairly large MAG office. It was a great experience and generally confirmed my suspicions that I wanted to do law. According to the site (just google 'summer student OPS') the launch is delayed this year due to COVID and suggests the postings will go live in a few weeks. While there are usually a lot of applicants and only a few law-related jobs, it's worth a shot given that your other options are practically nonexistent.
  5. As a fellow applicant I can see why someone might think 'my stats are competitve and I didn't get in' which might prompt the question 'who else with similar stats didn't get in?'. Now, I wouldn't make a whole thread to investigate this, but it's not an unreasonable query. In any event, the answer to the question might reveal that OP is the only one (or one of few) with high stats who doesn't get in. In this case, the OP would be in for a wake up call (rather than some presumed ego boost), indicating something egregiously wrong with some aspect of their application. Alternatively, the answer might reveal that there are many others with similar stats who don't get in. While this could devolve into a pity party, it might also be useful in further establishing U of T's 'holistic process' which is often an aspect undermined by many on this board (when comparing admissions to Oz, for example). So I don't blame OP for posting, and now that two rounds are over, the chances of getting in are slimmer than they've ever been (so one can no longer retort that someone with a 170+ and 3.7+ would be disingenuous to question their chances). For the record I didn't get in, but I knew that I wasn't a lock (3.85/166).
  6. Not yet in law school, but I'm a fourth-year at U of T so I'll pitch in. U of T campus is basically a square kilometre which borders the major Toronto hospitals (UHN) to the south, high-end living and retail (to the North and East) with additional residential/food/retail in between. (It's also half a block West of Bay St. if that means anything to you). Queen's park also falls within the border of the campus (as well as adjacent government offices). As a result, it's a busy but well-maintained and 'safe' part of Toronto. There is a lot of 'hustle and bustle' which can sometimes be annoying, but I assume that you won't have to traverse the whole campus as a law student (compared to undergrads). The campus buildings are a mix of historic (very old), old (read: run-down) and new. What's most relevant is that the law building falls within the new category (though I find the historic buildings charming). There are a bunch of restaurants/bars around, cool museums, art galleries and other attractions etc. It's basically in the middle of Toronto proper, so there's always a lot going on. As others have said, this also makes most/all of the immediate surrounding areas particularly expensive (not always for food, but definitely for rent). In general, I would argue that it's in a good location, especially compared to the other school in the core (Ryerson) which is in a more congested area that is busier and sometimes (arguably) more sketchy than the area that U of T is in. (Even though they aren't that far from one another, there is a palpable difference in 'vibe'). One of my best friends goes to York, so on occasion I would take the subway there and found it to be quite different. First, understand that York is a ~45 min subway ride Northwest of U of T, so it is practically completely removed from the downtown core of Toronto (it's really in North York). The surrounding area is not great - it's quite close to 'concrete wasteland' and the neighbourhood just south of the campus (Jane and Finch) is basically one of the roughest in Toronto. That said, the campus isn't bad, as it is sort of closed off to itself. I actually found this to make it considerably more relaxing (or, quiet) than U of T where there's always someone or something passing by. The buildings and architecture are largely...uninspired...to say the least, and you can generally tell its a less historic place than U of T. These latter comments are largely superficial considerations though. Being outside of the core means there are less events or places to simply go to after class - fewer restaurants, attractions, events (and given the surrounding areas, I would be less inclined to 'explore'). I only say this because I often found myself attending random events or gallery exhibits near U of T as a function of passing by the event itself (or an advertisement for it). I hear that York is even more of a commuter school than U of T (but I can't verify this). In end, the location of U of T alone would bias me to favour it over York, but the real considerations are those pertaining to the programs and the type of law you're interested in etc. Not sure if this was helpful but that's my take. Note that i) I'm not a law student and ii) I've only visited York, and never stayed on its campus for a meaningful amount of time.
  7. Today was/is the first day. Given that round one was only one day, it's also possible that today is the only/final day as well.
  8. LOL yeah I also thought 28-29 meant latest since it also said they would notify if it begins earlier... The only reason I think it might not happen is because in round one they updated in the morning and calls started around 10-11AM...but who knows it's still early in the day 🤞
  9. Why do I have the suspicion that it won't be today 😕
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  11. FWIW, he lost the fight: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/peter-a-allard-school-of-law-ubc-name-on-degrees-1.5875517
  12. One of my offers from another school took ~5 days to show up
  13. Just out of curiosity, is there a reason for this? I know that some doctors often work until they're quite old especially if they're specialists in a niche area etc. but is it the same for lawyers?
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