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  1. This is not at all what I am doing... There was general misunderstanding that the only factor I was considering was the money. I wanted to clarify that that was not true. I have repeatedly acknowledged the unethical nature of this. Please, don't call me shitty. This forum is toxic enough as is. Also based on your reaction to CleanHand's post above, I'm starting to doubt you're a BIPOC.
  2. Some clerks are rude, a couple were racist (please see my OP again). As in I walked in on them having a blatantly racist conversation. Does that make my experience more valid to you? I understand the unethical aspects of what i am contemplating above, thanks for your input.
  3. This is really just life advice in general - don't ever call it a "race card". I also don't appreciate folk weighing in on the validity of my experience and whether or not it had an impact on my decision-making. I clarified that it did have a big impact on my decision, and acknowledged that, perhaps, my OP did not sufficiently show this. This was partly intentional, as discussions about race on this forum and the internet as a whole tend to digress and stress me the fuck out (this post is a good example of that). I subsequently made what I mean clear, you certainly don't have to "believe it". But, I just want to reiterate again how awful the term "race card is". Trust me, if it were a card with any kind of "advantage", as this term implies, these issues wouldn't even exist. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming you aren't a racist or wilfully ignorant person, I'm hoping you won't use the term again.
  4. @xdarkwhite Thank you for your response. I think you're right - I either need to withdraw my acceptance now and go through OCIs or accept the offer. I'll have to think on this and make a decision, before OCIs. It does feel unethical, which is really why posted this in the first place. Your post has been incredibly helpful. Thanks!
  5. I think this is where the race discussion ends for me. I don't need you to validate the seriousness of my experiences. I apologize if Diplock was insulted by my response. It is unfortunate that you, CleanHands, are not capable of being empathetic to my perspective.
  6. Firstly, thanks for your response and your first-hand account. I appreciate it. I will only address the following point from your response and not the blatantly patronizing bits as I do not want this to digress. I'm going to go ahead and make an assumption that you're not a BIPOC based on this statement: The reason why that is relevant is that my apprehension regarding coming back has a lot to do with my personal lived experience. Working in the environment that I described briefly (perhaps too briefly, especially for a largely white audience) makes this position substantially worse than another. For a BIPOC person, every workplace comes with its negative experiences. I've been working for a long time, and I have never worked somewhere I didn't experience microaggressions. Thus, for me, finding employment becomes a balancing act of costs (workplace racism) and benefits (pay). Now, there is no way for me to know whether a new offer would come with its own pair of racist clerks. But for several hundred more a week, the cost-benefit ratio would likely be at more of a balance. I don't want to be labelled as "scummy" personally, or professionally, so I hope I have sufficiently clarified my position to you as more than someone with a wandering eye looking to "cheat". That being said, thanks again for your advice and I will explore further the repercussions, just as I am sure you did.
  7. Thanks @Mal that's very helpful. If it makes a difference, I didn't not get this job through a formal recruit, but through a referral. I emailed HR my resume and a cover letter and they called me in for an interview. I will look into the recruitments procedures and possible ramifications. I guess I shouldn't have signed the offer... but I felt I was in a tough spot. I didn't want to not sign it, go through OCIs and end up with no employment. It just feels weird thinking I "owe" them something. I understand how inconvenient it is to have to hire someone in my place, but at the same time there are soooo many students who will still be looking for employment.
  8. Thank you, I certainly am not looking for legal advice (impossible to give without access to the letter I signed anyway). Just clarification on @pzabbythesecond's statement.
  9. I did sign the offer of employment. They are not contributing to my studies in any way.
  10. Generally, Ottawa is a good choice for government positions. I would say based on your goals, apply there. But don't write off any other schools you're interested in since at the end of the day the school you go to is not determinative. OP said this wasn't a chances post and is aware their stats are sufficient.
  11. This summer I worked as a 1L student at a local firm. It was okay, but there were things about the firm culture that I didn't like. It is a firm of about 12 lawyers, but there is no sense of community that you would normally have with a smaller firm. The clerks are SO rude, and frankly I am pretty sure a couple are racist. The pay is also lower than comparable firms. This firm offered me a 2L position for next summer back in August. I accepted, party because of pressure from HR and the managing partner, and partly because I was happy to at least have something. The thing is, I still think that I want to do OCIs. I would like the experience of applying and interviewing. But I know that if I get an offer I will likely accept it, especially if the pay is better. Is it shady of me to accept the firm's offer and (potentially) later reject it? what would you do in my position?
  12. Does anyone have recommendations for an organization/productivity app? I used Todoist last year with some success, but I'm looking for something a little less "simple". More like a digital planner than a to-do list. Something geared toward academics would be ideal! Thanks!
  13. This is the best advice on this thread and really the only thing you should be taking away from this conversation. Critical thinking will be essential for your time in law school, in your career, and throughout your life in general.
  14. I agree with this completely. When I showed up, the person I met with told me that since I was not an existing client, "there's no way to know if I would pay the money back" (despite my 800+ credit score, owning my own home, and having investments). Their customer service is atrocious, in my experience.
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