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  1. I work with the feds as a junior policy analyst and my degree is in Economics and Math. There are a few folks with MPPs/MPAs that I have worked with and one recovering lawyer. What I have gleaned is that there are a variety of academic disciplines represented in the world of policy wonkery, but an MPP is a great way to get your foot in the door. It is however not the only way. Doing a JD/MPA is unlikely to add substantial benefit to your career as a lawyer, and a JD might be sufficient to get yourself into the world of policy. Additionally, I'm wrapping up my MPP online from the University of Auckland in New Zealand, so if you find you hate the practice of law and still think an MPP might be essential, you can earn it while working (though I'm unsure how feasible that is given the strenuous nature of law). Best of luck!
  2. Basketweaving sounds easy until you actually have to weave a basket. And no, no weight is given to your undergraduate degree at any school with the exception of UofT. I'd also counsel you against disparaging people's majors here. I majored in math and economics and have a cousin who majored in classics -- her degree was harder than mine to me just based on the sheer fact that she had to learn 2 dead languages, as well as French and German, but she would have probably struggled with real analysis. On average, yes some degrees are harder than others, however people have different strengths and it wouldn't be wise of law schools to discount stellar students just because they were taught something that isn't classically seen as rigourous.
  3. You're advocating for a middle ground, which I generally find admirable. Unfortunately, it's the middle ground between sense and nonsense.
  4. I've been off LS.ca for a little while and my god am I happy this post was the first one I stumbled across.
  5. Schools as a rule don't pay attention to the type of degree you've completed. If you complete two years of a 3 year degree, you should be eligible for consideration. However, often it's people with highly competitive stats that get admitted with only 2 years of university marks. I completed a 3 year degree and got into law school this year, and while my stats were better than average, I did have 3 years of university marks.
  6. I got into all the schools I applied to with a 3 year general degree and having not done a full course load ever. GPA and LSAT are the most important determinants to the extent that some law schools (UBC, uVic, Alberta (?)) have admissions formulae. Best of luck in your applications.
  7. Hi folks, I've been accepted to and am seriously considering attending UO. I just want to get a feel for what 1L courses were like and figured getting a hold of some syllabuses might be helpful. So, if anyone has some they wouldn't mind sharing, I'd really appreciate it.
  8. It's a fairly competitive market with imperfect information and informational asymmetry, so I think most of the strange stuff you see comes from that. Also there are pretty high transaction costs in labour markets, which by and large make the possibility of a perfectly competitive or rational labour market impossible.
  9. Not sure what school you're at, but here's uOttawa's policy: The following conditions apply: All courses taken and repeated appear on the student’s transcript. All courses, whether passed or failed, can be repeated only once. Only the second grade obtained is used in the calculation of averages. A failing grade can replace a passing grade. Check out your school's policy on what does and doesn't appear on transcripts. I'd still say it's to your advantage to repeat the course if it won't delay your graduation and you're sure that you can get a grade that will boost your cGPA. Alternatively, if the grade isn't replaced, take a course you're interested in and know you can do well in.
  10. Schools don't average your scores. At worst, you'll be sinking time and resources into an attempt that's at or below a 167. I was PTing around 172 and scored a 166. Decided not to retake because ... well I'm lazy. So props to you.
  11. Did you do this? Because if so, no amount of exclamation points in the world make up for your level of entitlement.
  12. I'm a 0L, so take this with a grain of salt because I'm just reiterating stuff I've read on this forum and elsewhere. When people say they want to do environmental law, it generally comes from a noble place. Most people want to defend endangered species or protect the integrity of waterways. This is generally public interest work done partially by the government and partially by organizations like West Coast Environmental Law or Ecojustice. These jobs do exist and it's possible you may get one. However, they're also highly competitive and the pay isn't anything to write home about (by lawyer standards). They are also vastly outnumbered by jobs working for large corporations, either advising them on how to comply with environmental regulations or defending them against law suits related to environmental misconduct -- firms like Williams and Shier, in addition to prosecuting environmental lawsuits also defends them and advises clients on compliance issues. So, in considering a career in environmental law, you should do some more digging on what a job in this field would entail and what the prospects are. Now, onto the schools. Of the 4 you've mentioned, none have a major environmental law focus. The best schools for that are out west -- my personal favourite being uVic for its Environmental Law Centre and general public interest orientation. But these are the schools you've applied to and let's say for the sake of argument, you're dead set on going this year. I'd pick uOttawa personally. It has what's called an option (read: specialization) in Environmental law. This doesn't mean anything in and of itself, except for the fact that there are enough environmental law related courses to create a specialization. uOttawa also places well in the federal government, where as a DOJ lawyer you could work for Environment Canada, The Impact Assessment Agency (formerly the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency), or Natural Resources Canada. Further, firms like Williams and Shier have an Ottawa office, as does Strikeman Elliott. Best of luck!
  13. I'd just like to say that I'm not the least bit surprised by the supportive posts on this thread. This forum, for all its faults and needless pedantry, is filled with good people just trying to help. Thank you all.
  14. "We know that approximately 58% of lawyers in Canada have experienced significant stress and burnout, 48% have experienced anxiety, and 26% have experienced depression. We also know that lawyers perceive stress and/or burnout, anxiety, and depression as some of the biggest health issues facing our profession." (Source) Mental health seems to be a serious concern in the profession. I suspect it's a combination of the fact that people who want to be lawyers are as a rule pretty neurotic and that the profession is inherently stressful. I think people with mental illness should be cautious before entering high stress careers. Just wanted to add this to balance out the rosier view I put out earlier. If you have a mental disorder and are looking to get into law, really seriously consider the effect of law school and lawyering on your mental health. I know that I'll have to monitor mine very closely during law school and (hopefully) practice. Edit: lifetime prevalence of anxiety is around 5%, lifetime prevalence of depression with chronic symptoms is 2.7%, and one in five people will experience a mental health issue in a given year (with a lifetime prevalence of around 50%). On balance then, it seems like there's evidence that lawyers are more prone to mental illness (especially anxiety) than the general population. Note that maybe I'm not comparing apples to apples here (lifetime prevalence vs. onset in a given year). Edit 2: I think the study referenced in the first article is looking at prevalence in a year.
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