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  1. I have an in-firm with a "small" firm that specializes in a certain area. I am not sure if this is important, but it has a larger office in another city. I am interested in this firm's practice area and quite enjoyed my OCI with this firm, more than my OCIs with any other firm actually. I would like to know what I can do to increase my chances of obtaining an offer at this firm. This is a broad question: does anyone have any insight as to how in-firms at "small" firms are different (vs. in-firms at large or mid-sized firms) in terms of what small firms look for in candidates? For example, will it be of particular importance to them that I am able to demonstrate an interest in their practice area or that I express interest in them specifically? I understand my question is broad and that firms are very different, but any insight would be helpful, as I do not know what to expect or what I should do differently, if i should do anything differently at all. I do like this firm a lot, from what I have seen, so I am a bit nervous about the in-firm. Thanks in advance.
  2. I'm looking to apply for a position that requires me to list references. There's a class I liked and that I participated in frequently. I only received a B+, but I believe I have a decent relationship with the prof. I wouldn't say that we have a strong connection, I would just say that we have a decent relationship. That said, is it likely that she would agree to act as a reference? Or is it weird for me to ask, given that I received a pretty average grade her class? Thanks in advance.
  3. I agree with this. Looking back, I would say it was not possible to prepare for most questions. While it’s good to have a succinct answer for some questions, like “Why law?” “Why x firm?” “What were your favourite courses?” it’s not possible to anticipate exactly what they will say in advance about your section on interests.
  4. I echo what others here have said: that is very odd that you had higher than a B+ no OCIs at all. I strongly suggest that you look into this because many firms have still prioritized grades heavily in this recruit. Although you may be at a school that does not have a great OCI-to-student ratio (U of T and Oz supposedly having the best OCI-to-student ratio) it’s worth looking into for your next applications.
  5. Hi, I have OCIs for my top choices close to the end of the day. I know that my interviewers will likely be exhausted by then and wanting to get the process over with. My questions are: (1) What are tips for making my interview go better, in light of the fact that my interviewers will likely be tired and checked out by the time of my interview? (2) Is this a bad sign (e.g. of their interest in me as a candidate)? It was my belief that schedules were system-generated based on availability and not any other factor, but the fact that these firms are more competitive firms, coupled with the fact that, I feel, my grades are only somewhat above-average make me think that this isn't a coincidence.
  6. I understand that advice could be good advice and yet be savage because there may be no way to deliver honest advice without being harsh. I take no issue with that. I take issue with individuals on this forum who are unnecessarily harsh, a key word being “unnecessarily.” If your co-worker comes in wearing turquoise pants and a red dress shirt, you can either tell her that the colours of her outfit clash or that she looks like a “fucking clown.” (I will not explain why one might refrain from calling one’s co-worker a clown even if she, in fact, resembles a clown. It is my hope that this is obvious.) Too many folks here do the latter and seem to get some strange kick out of it. This, I should add, is a tad fucked up and signals the existence of untreated deep-seated issues. It’s a safe bet that these same individuals would fare poorly in an in-person confrontation and would not nearly be as aggressive in-person as they are online. You all know who you are. You need to chill. It’ll make you a bit happier.
  7. Go for it. Manage your expectations, but don’t count yourself out. If it’s the case that grades will be given less weight this year, you may be able to offset your grades with the experience you have.
  8. OP is right. Some of you are unnecessarily savage. These forums can get pretty toxic and it's kind of sad. It has definitely prevented some people from posting.
  9. if there’s anyone out there feeling down too, you’re not alone. Others and I are feeling so down too. if you’re scared about what others might think of you if you don’t get a job, you’re not alone. Others and I feel the same. we’re in a weird environment (ie the law school environment) where we’re told it’s the end of the world if you don’t get a job in the 2L recruit. try not to worry - it’s not the end of the world. keep going and try to keep your spirits up so that you put the best application together that you can. all the best & god bless
  10. There is a myriad of reasons as to why someone might elect to make a formal complaint as opposed to speaking to the professor directly. First, the fact pattern in the assignment is not an isolated incident (which, I understand, I did not share at the outset). I will decline to provide greater detail, but the professor has said or done other things as well. I have concluded that these events, in their totality, represent a certain pattern of thinking that I do not believe should be afforded the benefit of the doubt. Second, even if it were not an isolated incident, someone in a position of significant responsibility ought to know and do better. For that reason, I am again disinclined to giving the benefit of the doubt. I see that many of us have different conceptions of what "indirect" or "subtle" racism/homophobia/etc. is. I won't provide further detail other than that I had friends both inside and outside law who read the fact pattern and thought it was, at the very least, "inappropriate" or "incredibly unprofessional." Friends who were members of the group that the fact pattern would offend all found it racist/homophobic/sexist/transphobic (whichever one it is). Third, raising the issue with the person makes sense if it would be productive to do so. This. I won't say much more other than that I got into a disagreement with this professor after class. I was the only student in the room and it got ugly. (I am going to use pronouns for men here for simplicity's sake.) I disagreed with him firmly about something in class. He became aggressive and made personal comments towards me. I called him out directly, telling him to his face that he was being racist/homophobic/sexist/transphobic. He then swiftly apologized to me. It was fucking tough to call her/him out in the moment, but it was every bit worth it to stand up for myself. I have confronted many of my peers/equals/coworkers without flinching, which is awkward as fuck, but sometimes necessary. This was one of the first times I confronted someone in a position of power to me and it was not easy. So, I can assure you that the reason I won't be raising these issues with the prof directly is, not because I'm not insecure or immature (I might be immature, but not based on this, ha), but because it would be a waste of my time. It was pretty fucking awkward after that. I could tell s/he was worried about our squabble because s/he was very nice to me after this incident. Unfortunately, even after that uncomfortable confrontation, her/his indirect racism/homophobia/sexism/transphobia continued in class. And that's what I have a problem with. This professor is good friends with the faculty that I think has to deal with my complaint. I am concerned about ruining my name with professors whose courses I may want to take or from whom I may want to ask references in the future. I want to stand up for what is right, but unfortunately it seems that it would be at potential great cost to myself.
  11. The latter. I got a good grade, actually. It has nothing to do with the grade. Ive spoken to the professor about other issues. She or he is not an open-minded person to say the least.
  12. Long story short, I had a low-value assignment where the professor's answer (according to the answer key) to a fact pattern was, in my opinion, (one of) racist/homophobic/sexist/transphobic. I am being deliberately vague and do not want to get much further into detail. The species of racism/homophobia/sexism/transphobia in this case is the more subtle or indirect kind. The professor also seems to express similar opinions during his or her lectures. I have solicited honest opinions from select friends in and outside law school and friends who are practising lawyers. So far, they all agree with me. If we assume that I have a legitimate complaint, would anything meaningful come from filing a complaint with the administration? Or is it a complete waste of time? Also, what penalties could I possibly incur? If anyone has experience in this area, I would greatly appreciate it.
  13. i was considering pushing myself on the off chance that i could somehow get an academic award, but our school has given us zero information on that and even if they had, my chances would be too slim anyway, so it's just not enough of a motivator. though, i must admit that some mild worry is setting in given that i haven't finished my summaries for 4/6 courses and exams are starting on the 13th. meh, should be fine.
  14. I am at a mandatory p/f school. to be frank, i am not studying that hard. how hard is everyone else studying?
  15. Disclaimer: this is entirely anecdotal. I agree with the point that U of T students seem to be more privileged. My significant other attends U of T and I currently attend another Ontario law school. S/He generally found that many students are privileged. (I went to U of T events with her/him and found that to be true.) I do not consider that to be the case generally at my school, where many students seem to come from middle class backgrounds. Edit: I would also add that I can see small differences affecting law school performance: working during law school, living situations (e.g. living alone vs. with many difficult roommates), worrying about the cost of expenses (e.g. not printing notes/summaries to avoid buying printer ink), etc.
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