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  1. I bombed a 1L exam (my final grade was less than 60%). I knew it was a disaster walking out of the exam (I couldn't finish it, and even my friends who finished it thought it was brutal), but because I still had several exams to go, I just had to push it out of my head knowing I would deal with it when the grades came out. When the grade came out, I felt terrible but in the end I swallowed my pride and went over the exam with the prof to learn what I did wrong. In 2L I even took a class with that same prof that builds directly on the material from the class I bombed, and I did just fine, which really helped me recover from it mentally. It was the first time I had done so poorly in my academic career so my confidence was really shaken up, and I totally get why you're feeling so rattled. It just happens sometimes, and it doesn't mean anything beyond the fact that you messed up an exam one time - you can still have great academic success. As for the impact on the job search, I was prepared to address it during OCIs and had talked to my school's career services office on how to approach it, but it never came up! I ended up doing well in OCIs and getting a job at a great firm. One bad (or terrible) grade doesn't necessarily mess up your whole future! Hope the rest of your exams go well, and feel free to PM me if you want more specifics.
  2. An added perspective: some legal employers do not permit you to work another paid position while you're summering with them. That doesn't seem to have been an issue for the posters above, but something to consider. I didn't work another job but I did have a volunteer position during my summer articling (5-10 hours a week) and it was brutal. I was really burnt out by the end of summer and I felt like I couldn't get a break from "work" because even when I clocked out at the firm, I had other semi-professional responsibilities, deadlines, and emails to tackle. While my friends headed out to have fun after work, I had to go home and hunker down in front of my laptop. Do not recommend.
  3. Can't remember the exact grade but I got under 60% in one of my 1L classes. The career services office helped me think up of a way to address it in case I got asked about it during OCIs, but it never came up! So my advice is prepare something to say about it (explain, don't excuse, and what you've learned from it) in case you get asked during the interview process, and apply as broadly and confidently as you would have if you had received a better grade.
  4. Yea fair question. Though I'm not happy with the firm in general, there is a practice area within it where I enjoy the people and the work more. Anecdotally, I know several people who weren't hired back from their various firms in the spring and are still looking for an associate position now, so I'm just concerned about the job market in general too.
  5. I'm partway through articling and have monthly meetings with my principal, where we usually speak for <1hr. Usually during these meetings I catch her up on the kind of work I've been doing and occasionally ask her a question about a particular issue I've faced. I would like to be able to share a little bit more of my struggles with my principal. Due to a variety of reasons, I've really struggled to keep up with work. Part of it is that I'm overworked (who isn't) and part of is that I feel very unsupported at my firm (again, not out of the norm for articling students). Covid and family issues are not helping either, but as a whole there are no extenuating circumstances. I'm not sure to what extent I should talk about this with my principal. On the one hand, some of the issues are directly related to the firm's response to COVID and I feel like I should advocate for myself and the other students and try to get some improvements for us (students at our firm really slip through the cracks). I also could use another perspective on how to handle the time management/ lawyer relations issues I'm running into. On the other hand, I don't want to rock the boat, and perhaps I should be putting up a good front every time I meet with her so that I look good by the time hireback decisions are made. I certainly don't want to be known as someone who complains, but I'm starting to really struggle and would like to get some advice from her. I feel like the replies will be that it depends on the principal, but generally is the principal-student relationship meant to include mentoring, or are these meetings more of a monthly opportunity to show why I should be hired back? Thanks for any input!
  6. I use airpods in meetings at work because I find just using the computer speaker/mic leads to more feedback. However the lawyers mostly use their computer (no headphones or airpods) so I doubt they would judge a student for doing the same. Like someone said above, I would do a test run.
  7. I don't have any advice, just that I feel bad that you're in this situation. When I was in 1L, I also felt like cliques formed pretty quickly. Hopefully you can find a couple of people that you get along with and can hang out with outdoors or at coffee shops, etc. Unfortunately, socializing in general is hard right now when you're trying to avoid spending time with people indoors.
  8. I think about this all the time. I'm an articling student and I've sent e-mails at 10pm only to get a comment on it the next day from asking why I was working that late (hint - it's because I'm overworked!). Part of why I email late is because mentally, when I finish a task I like to have it wrapped up and out of my hands so that I can go to sleep peacefully. The other reason is that I tend to start work later than in the day than some of the lawyers I help with, and I want them to have it in their inbox ready to go as soon as they log on. Unfortunately there's no schedule send on the version of outlook my office uses. Otherwise I would use it all the time! It's frustrating
  9. From a student perspective in Vancouver, I've heard of many firms where there's an expectation that articling students go in every day (unless there's a specific reason they should be working from home, like being immuno-compromised). The WFH policy at my firm explicitly applies to students as well
  10. My firm uses Elite and I find it very clunky. It looks like it's from the 90s (just like PC Law it sounds like)
  11. Hahaha, I googled it before posting because I knew something was off - still didn't get it right apparently though! Good thing basic mathematical concepts didn't show up on the LSAT I meant both situations you describe, but yes, the title was meant to refer to where there's very few students for a large number of lawyers.
  12. I'm wondering if it's a red flag if a firm tends to hire very few students for a large amount of lawyers (e.g. 1 student per 25 lawyers). Could it indicate the firm's not in a good enough financial spot to hire more students? Will the students be overworked, having to cater to more lawyers than the average student at another firm? On the flipside, if the ratio of student to lawyer is much narrower (like 1 to 7), is there a higher risk of not being hired back? or is it generally a positive thing indicating the firm feels optimistic about its future? Is there a usual range that's generally considered good (e.g. 1 student per 15-20 lawyers) in a mid-size or big firm? I understand there may be many reasons why a firm would choose to hire more or fewer articling students and that I'm drawing a lot of potentially erroneous inferences here, so I appreciate any insight!
  13. Yea especially regarding your sentence: "While I am firm in my conviction that I am supposed to be a lawyer, I'm a little worried that a horrific diagnostic score could rattle me into thinking that maybe I'm just delusional. " The LSAT doesn't matter for anything except getting into law school. I know plenty of people who struggled through the LSAT, who are now excelling in law school. And many for whom getting a good LSAT score was easy and who are now having a rough go of it. And then who knows how that will translate into competence/excellence practicing as a lawyer. Don't focus on your first score as literally anything but a jumping off point, it really isn't an indicator for anything meaningful.
  14. I understand your worry about self-fulfilling prophecies, but I think you're overthinking it. If you're aware that a good/ bad score might lead to those outcomes, then that awareness should be enough to counter the effects of scoring well or poorly on your studying/ attitude. Personally I didn't take a diagnostic LSAT in simulated test conditions to start with. I just did one at my own pace to try to get a feel for the questions. Afterwards, my main studying technique was to do the mock exams under simulated test conditions, with additional practice on the sections I had more difficulty with.
  15. It's the same software but it'll be a different mode that will allow for accessing notes at the same time. But regardless, I agree students might protest.
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