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  1. Mfs take third-year clinical biochemistry and start thinking they're the next Hilleman.
  2. And a bunch of the average students from my high school went into life sciences and are now making like $18/hour as a lab tech despite a masters degree. Again, nobody thinks that law requires innate intelligence, and you're comparing apples to oranges. Getting into law school is not impressive in the least, since as you said, anyone can do it. Getting into specific law schools, and ending up with specific jobs, and continuing in specific streams is impressive. That demonstrates intelligence - whether innate or not. The same applies to science.
  3. Nobody's saying that, and I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with first-year physics concepts. Multiple people in this thread have science and engineering degrees. Rote memorization or basic scientific analysis isn't impressive, which is why we have unemployed and chronically underpaid PhD grads.
  4. You need like an 83% high school average to get into an aerospace engineering programs in Canada. It's amusing that you're making a subsequent qualifier with " or NASA engineer". I mean that's the equivalent of saying anyone can be a lawyer, but not everyone can work for Morgans. Which is absolutely true, and the sentiment applies to basically every job.
  5. I know it's the thread's topic, but my intention wasn't to discuss the competency of Ryerson students - although the tone of my post is somewhat paternalistic nonetheless. My intention was to dispute the idea that calls for greater regulation is meritless entitlement, since it can affect the market dynamics for other lawyers in a protected industry.
  6. Sorry, I don't completely agree. Law a regulated practice and the regulatory body bears some responsibility in maintaining practice standards. This should include limiting the accredited number of schools and available student seats, but then again, the law equivalent of a Flexner Report is probably never going to happen. I'm just cautious about calling this "entitlement" because it could result in what's been happening with pharmacy in Canada, where recent graduates can't practice independently and it results in significant wage drops (from $80/h to $35/h when adjusted for inflation). Of course, this problem can fix itself since bad market=less applicants, as we see with UofT Pharm dropping course requirements and the PCAT since barely anyone applies anymore. But I find this irresponsible, it shouldn't be a constant boom/bust cycle.
  7. Or, lets be honest, elitists who care about the professions image for selfish reasons.
  8. Are we talking exclusively about senior associates/partners, or junior associates too? It's interesting because I heard it's a bit difficult to transition to NY, but then again I have zero first-hand experience.
  9. Ultra Vires has some self-reported data that breaks it down. It's a small sample size representing ~32% of the class. According to the survey 63% of the class reported a 166+ LSAT (mean ~167) and 90%+ reported a GPA of 3.7+ (mean of 3.83).
  10. And Ottawa! 50 students hired this year, while it's normally 30-35.
  11. Incomplete UofT NY Stats (Supposedly 30-40 this year) They're all V100 firms V100 firms generally follow the same payscale The only non-V100 firms I've ever heard people going to are IP firms like Knobbes Martens, which pays similarly.
  12. Osgoode is like 10 minutes away from multi-million dollar houses and also 10 minutes away from crack dens. It's just segmented - stay away from the bad places and you'll be fine. It's weird to generalize North York when downtown Toronto is even more pocketed.
  13. Even as a URM, you'll need something close to 173 for HYS. If you think you really believe can boost it up from your current 167, then go for it. Have you applied to the other T14 schools? If you're going into corporate law, I'd take any of the T10 over Canadian schools.
  14. I don't necessarily disagree with your comment, but I just want to point out that the Ultra Vires Toronto 2L recruit numbers don't capture all positions obtained. For example, you mentioned New York, but the ~15% of the UofT class that get NY jobs aren't counted in the Toronto 2L recruit. When you factor in NY, other international positions (e.g., KWM), "lucrative" non-law jobs (e.g., MBB), non-OCI in-house jobs (e.g., Nestle), and non-Toronto Big Law (e.g., BJ in Calgary), etc., it's probably closer to ~70-75% of the class. There are also the people interested in government, academia, and public sector jobs that make up 10-15% of the class, and not all positions are captured by the 2L recruit numbers (also MAG didn't release their numbers for the 2020 recruit).
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