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  1. You should do your diagnostic test before developing a study plan, rather than after.
  2. This completely depends what you are testing at--there is no general answer. Personally I would consider this an absurdly excessive amount of preparation unless your natural aptitude for the LSAT is very limited.
  3. Oh I love this guy but I don't miss doing every exam with him in 1L and I've let him know as much. haha
  4. A friend of mine who would sit beside me in exams and obnoxiously type furiously, then would always ask me my character count as soon as exams were over and state his own (no matter how many times I asked him not to do that), was told by a professor that he really needed to write less. So don't worry too much about it. lol
  5. The beauty of law is that it's still not too late to get a 30+ year career in. A guy in my office is 75!
  6. @GrumpyMountie FWIW I'm in my 30's and have a law enforcement background as well. I thought it might be an issue but it really wasn't in the end.
  7. One thing I'd like to say on this subject is that I'd encourage anyone going to law school to be kind to themselves. In law school I have worked with and studied under lawyers who were gold medalists, Supreme Court of Canada clerks, Ivy League or Oxbridge grad degreeholders, etc. People who have worked on genocide cases at The Hague, people who have argued or been cited before the SCC, people who have advised Prime Ministers, etc. And many of them did this while juggling family life and all sorts of other responsibilities. I had fewer personal responsibilities and accomplished none of the things any of those people did. It is really easy to forget that studying at a Canadian law school is itself an indication of some degree of success and competence. It is easy to forget that law exams--while not meaningless--assess some very specific skills and aren't necessarily completely representative of your intelligence or ability or potential as a practicing lawyer. It is easy to forget that assessments of you (in academics, in OCIs, in clerkship applications, etc) are relative to other people who are switched on, intelligent, motivated and high achieving people. It is hard to contextualize everything. In short, there is a lot of noise in law school that will inevitably make the majority of people there feel like fuckups. I'm sure that different people will have different ways of dealing with this, but what I found really valuable was doing all sorts of volunteering providing legal services to those who couldn't afford it but didn't qualify for Legal Aid, and keeping the messages that I received from people thanking me and making notes of such things when they happened in person. In the end what has reassured me of my own worth wasn't any grades or recommendation letters or job offers I received, but rather the time a psychiatric patient shook my hand and thanked me because I got him released from the hospital, the time an accused hugged me because I was able to prevent her from getting a criminal record over a minor assault that a prosecutor was treating as the crime of the century, the time a client wrote a long, heartfelt letter thanking me for caring and fighting for them even though I lost their case, the time a single father thanked me for successfully fighting the eviction of him and his disabled daughter, the time that a client's refugee claim was successful and they texted me to thank me for helping make it happen. Whatever else, good or bad, pursuing all of this has meant for me, this all serves as a reminder that I do have value and so did my decision to go down this path. And further, that I owe it to both myself and others to work hard and keep at it, because as law students and lawyers we are empowered to do some real good and shouldn't squander it.
  8. This is funny to me, because if I learned a single thing in law school it was that I'm not special and I don't deserve to be honored or celebrated yet (maybe I can earn that someday). And I check a lot of your boxes for why some people should supposedly feel that just getting a JD is some great achievement. I dunno, I'm not even saying that you're wrong per se, I just find it interesting how people perceive this journey so differently. I found the process extremely humbling and short of the elite few who become medalists and SCC clerks I don't get why so many law students and recent grads feel so important.
  9. @CrimNation Are your interests more specific than a broad conception of a "criminal lawyer?" In addition to the distinction between Crown and defence, there is a world of difference between low-volume, high-complexity crim work and doing duty counsel or otherwise docket court work, for example.
  10. Look dude, I know you like to stir shit up, and you're often technically right when you do so, but if your position is that it's okay and excusable to take 18 days for a request like this, given that it's literally their job, it is an incredibly simple, easy and quick task to complete, and it is of significant importance to students that such requests be fulfilled in a timely fashion, you aren't going to persuade me no matter how many follow-up posts you make. I asked a question about what is going on in other schools; you've at least provided a relevant answer here. This is subjective but I would say I might prefer it being literally impossible to obtain an updated official transcript to what UBC is offering, because at least that situation would be uncomplicated, it would give one an ironclad reason why they can't provide possibly provide it, one wouldn't get ripped off with fees for services that aren't provided within any reasonable length of time, and one wouldn't have this hanging over their head to the same degree. But it's informative to hear that UBC isn't the only one dropping the ball, at least. As for your latter point, bureaucracy and inflexibility in HR procedures is just a thing in public sector hiring, for example. Since there are many government jobs I am interested in, I don't have the luxury of telling them to go fuck themselves if they are rigid about such things (I'll bend over and take this before I apply for any private sector job that isn't a crim defence firm). And I suspect many students aren't really in a position to be too choosy either. Your comment on that point is just fatuous.
  11. Okay, but I've seen people talk about incompetent CSOs before in this very thread, and had certain employers not been understanding of my situation, this incompetence from enrollment services would have been more damaging than CSO incompetence.
  12. Most definitely, I like to have a mix of in-depth, complex research tasks and court appearances, and more brain-dead doc review stuff. Too much of the former would burn me out, too much of the latter would bore me to death.
  13. I requested it be sent directly to me in the online form. Granted, the form was from before they moved to PDF transcripts due to COVID, so there was no field to input an email address. But I don't think it would have been asking much of them to draw the inference that if I wanted it personally sent to me they could use my info on file (it was apparently good enough for personal communication, after all). In any event that's a minor detail in comparison to the fact that it took those clowns 18 GODDAMN DAYS to respond to a request to spend a minute generating a PDF and emailing it.
  14. Have all enrollment services offices (or whatever office at a given school handles transcripts) been as incompetent as UBCs during the pandemic? UBC stopped offering paper transcripts about two months ago (I believe). They have only been offering PDF transcripts. Which would be fair enough in itself. But they are providing a current processing time of "up to 15 days" and in fact took 18 days to email me and ask where email the transcript (yes, you read that correctly; they emailed me to ask for my email address) the last time I placed an order (who knows how much additional time it would have taken them to actually send it had I still wanted it). I've needed transcripts for interviews, applications, etc and their abject incompetence made me miss deadlines, made me have to make excuses to people, and rendered the request moot...and then they refused to refund me. Phone calls to them go to a convoluted automated system, and they did not answer a voicemail I left for them inquiring about this during this time. They are claiming that they have a huge backlog, but it literally takes less than a minute to pull up something you have access to in a computer system, save it as a PDF, and email it somewhere.
  15. No worries. CANs = condensed annotated notes. These are the notes you will create and bring to the open book exams. I am not, and have never been, a UOttawa student (I didn't need to be to answer the questions you asked), but it's safe to say that a change to the curve won't change much except for making students feel better. Your transcripts should show class averages as well as your individual grades, and large employers work closely with law school CSOs and keep abreast of such developments. Maybe some employer at a small rural firm isn't going to be aware of changes to grading curves at law schools, or look too closely at the class averages, but all of the types of firms that participate in OCIs/formal recruits (i.e. BigLaw and government) are going to know what is going on and it won't help students at all with them. They look to performances relative to peers, not raw grades.
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