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  1. To be clear, if the analogy is a mutual fund, the difference between UofT and Ottawa is not the rate of return it is the risk. UofT has slightly lower risk, because it increases your employ-ability but no one pays you more based on your degree. The primary factor in the rate of return is the type of law you want to practice. If you want Bay Street, then UofT probably makes sense. If you are looking at criminal law, then it doesn't. Public law, is somewhere between the two. My perspective, as someone who worked at a well-regarded downtown Vancouver firm and now works for the BC government, is that I am very glad I had a very low amount of debt so I could take a big pay cut for lifestyle.
  2. This is a really difficult decision. Public law doesn't pay enough to justify the cost of any of these schools. While I agree with Deadpool for the most part about UofT, I struggle with the idea that it is worth $16,000+ more per year than Ottawa.
  3. There is a difference between an elitist perspective saying that some job is offered to "anyone with a pulse" and the reality that there is a lot of competition for articling jobs to the point that even unpaid positions get flooded with applicants. There has been a very public "articling crisis" to the point that Ontario introduced an alternative way to get people through articling. It is unclear why you think the fact that there are a few advertised positions proves that articling is easy to get. There is not a wide spectrum of interpretation of the term "anyone with a JD and a pulse". Get out of the law school mentality that anything is arguable.
  4. Where do you see this forum talking about hiring anyone with a jd and a pulse? Articling is so competitive that places that don’t pay anything get loads of applications...
  5. Mal

    Why Ryerson?

    Yea, let's discriminate against people who have Asperger's or social anxiety or other such disabilities! How dare they struggle with social settings. We need to generate more good looking, white, extroverts for big firms to scoop up!
  6. Be very careful in giving advice on something you have limited experience with. It is not common for people to drop out of law school in Canada. Speaking frankly, law is just an office job. It has high expectations and is compensated for it, but otherwise it is not that different than being an accountant or insurance salesman. Personally, I have always felt that being "in law for the money" is a good reason. Although that is a straw man and really it is more like "I am a driven person who enjoys detailed reading and thinking about things logically/objectively and wants to find a well compensated career to fit me." You don't need to work in a law firm to know that you want to go to law school. You aren't qualified to do anything meaningful anyways.
  7. Don't drink the kool-aid, it only really matters for a very narrow subset of careers.
  8. The two contradictory pieces of advice are: (1) Work hard and learn the material well because it will be bedrock knowledge for your entire career; and (2) Don't get caught up in the anxious environment. Law is a marathon and taking care of yourself pays dividends later on.
  9. No, there is not a Canadian version of Quimbee. We use the McGill Guide to Legal Citation. Very little use of the true socratic method, these days it is lectures with class participation in some form. Most classes are 100% exam, some have papers or other assignments. Not all provinces even have a bar exam, many use a course of some sort. Bar prep courses are not common or necessary. No, there are not a lot of study aids that are helpful.
  10. Why not just apply for policy work now?
  11. I would suggest that everyone who wishes to go to law school should prepare for the LSAT diligently which can be done effectively in a couple months of full-time studying. There are diminishing returns from studying for the LSAT, once you are familiar with the form of the questions and how to budget your time, you aren't likely to improve much from studying. It doesn't take seven months to get to this point.
  12. This is a question you should just email admissions directly. You need to make it clear how those issues are behind you. With a lsat score below admissions average and recent grades far below the average, it is unclear how you do that. Law is difficult, you need to be careful not to convince the committee that you don't have the mental fortitude for it.
  13. This reminds me of the concept of an infinite number of monkeys typing for an infinite amount of time eventually creating Shakespeare. While technically it is possible, practically law students are not equal and the exams are composed with varying levels of difficulty to ensure that students will differentiate.
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