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  1. I was in a similar situation last year! I thought I was done for, and that nobody would take me seriously (how could they if I'm saying I'm interested in X, but I didn't do great in the course?). But, it worked out fine. None of my interviewers even asked about it. I think it was because I had experience in the area and I showed them that I was genuinely interested. Your experiences will make a difference. Feel free to PM me for more details.
  2. I think the reason why there are vague and mixed answers is because it really depends on the student committee and the people interviewing you. They might factor your undergraduate grades or not even consider them. It really depends. But, I definitely do think that firms have hired people with bad undergraduate marks because what matters at this point are your law school grades and experiences. The law faculty has already 'vetted' students when they admit them. During my interviews, I saw them flip through my undergraduate transcript, but they didn't ask me about it at all even though I had a few withdrawals and a declining GPA. They looked more at my law school transcript and asked me about the courses I took in law school. I'm not on any student committee, but my understanding is that while firms request all your transcripts, they focus on your law transcript over your undergraduate transcript. It might be something a student committee considers as a tie-breaker between two candidates who are equal in all aspects. Take note, this is all speculation from my end.
  3. Congratulations! I have some things for you to consider in making your choice, in no particular order: McGill focuses very much on the Montreal market so if you're sure this is where you want to start your legal career, McGill is the place for you. You will be able to go to networking events and the CDO will have more comprehensive information for you. McGill also places some students in Toronto (this year it was ~20 students) and New York (a handful), so if you're interested in those markets, perhaps McGill is a better choice over UBC. But, you will still have to work to find information about those markets. McGill does place very few students in Vancouver, but you should expect to be proactive in finding out information and seeking out networking events. These students are usually from Vancouver too. So if you want to return to Vancouver, it won't be a problem if you're proactive about looking for summer and articling opportunities in Vancouver with help from the CDO. What makes you enjoy Montreal over Vancouver? If it's based on short visits to Montreal, I would say that is very different than networking and living in the city for a couple months. After staying awhile, you might find you don't like the Montreal culture or the legal culture there. Also, make sure you sort out insurance and who will be your health providers in Quebec, it can be a pain if you have chronic health problems or just a hassle in general to be out-of-province. If you end up coming to McGill and decide you want to do Montreal recruitment, make sure you are ready to explain "why Montreal" because employers want to make sure you'll stick around. That is not to say students who have no ties to Montreal aren't successful, there are quite a few students who decide they love Montreal and want to work there with no prior ties. Knowledge of French won't be an issue at McGill. I don't think you need to work on it further to make it through the program. However, it sounds like your French is conversationally decent and if you want to work in Montreal, you will likely have to actively work on it so that you can speak it in a professional setting. This includes being able to interview in French. It might be easy to plan to work on your French now, but you will have to be committed once you start first year because it'll be easy to push it off to the side. You will also have to go to bar school and pass the bar, which will be a gruesome 4 months (full time) or 8 months (part time). Since McGill is "transsystemic," it doesn't do a good job of preparing students for the Quebec bar, unlike other schools. Students don't really use the civil code like other Quebec law students. The McGill program is structured for 3.5 years (students may graduate in 3 years if they obtain the required credits in time), which will throw some employers off. Going forward, this is something to consider depending on which market you want to work in. It may be an annoyance and also a barrier to employment to explain it to employers who are not familiar with the program. Hope this helps!
  4. And please reach out to your friends whenever you are ready to do so--they are there for you and they're just giving you space to process. They really don't care whether or not you were successful in this process, their perspective on you hasn't changed one bit. Take all the time you need to process and recover. Just remember that you're extremely qualified to have made it to in-firms, regardless of the result.
  5. Maybe, but it really doesn't matter at this point. There could be a variety of reasons including logistics and availability of lawyers. You're still having a meal with them--it's a good sign!
  6. I wouldn't read too much into it. Everyone that's getting a call IS in the firm's good books. As long as you got a call, you're in a good place. It will depend on the firm how much instructions are given to callers. For example, some callers might be told to book certain candidates on Monday or even Monday morning. But other firms might tell their callers to call in order of the list with no other requirements. This means that you might get asked "can you come in at 8/10/12/2?" or "what time do you want to come in?" In that sense, it can be arbitrary because they just want to schedule you in. Disclaimer: I'm not a caller, but this is my understanding of the situation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  7. Agreed, they phrased it well and (most) students got the point.
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