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  1. Doesn't this disadvantage students who did less well in December? Basically asking them to compete against students who have fewer exams to worry about by virtue of having done better earlier. This would make it even harder to do well on the curve...
  2. What is funny to me is that we do acknowledge that there are marginal differences between what separates a B from a B+, or a B+ from an A-, but we still hang onto this notion that somehow someone who managed to get an A- on an exam is somehow more worthy of getting an interview/job. But I guess this is something more general rather than specific to only the current circumstances.
  3. I'd like to think that potential employers would take the circumstances into consideration! Regardless of whether it is P/F or not... I don't think it would make sense for them to completely discount entire cohorts because their schools decided to take a P/F approach .. but then again, I'm not an employer. 😬
  4. Sorry, I wasn't really asking a question :). I thought @ufaalberta was discussing the implications of P/F and you were responding about whether competency could be measured from that. I must have misunderstood what you were getting at. It's been a long few days...
  5. I get that, but isn't there a reason for having resumes that include past work experience/extracurriculars with references and what not? Everyone who gets into law school has proven themselves to be competent academically... perhaps more weight could be put on other factors given this extraordinary situation that can have serious impacts on academic performance that has nothing to do with someone's competence level in practice. There is so much talk about how exams aren't necessarily reflective of one's true knowledge and capabilities (and how can a 3 hour exam in one class on one day really be?). Employers mention how they don't really like the process of basing applications on grades, but do it out of convenience or just because "that is the way it is." This could potentially be a reason to make policy changes in the hiring process.
  6. 1L here: I'm experiencing some serious anxiety over this because on one hand I think I have learned so much from term 1 and the december exam cycle and have really ramped up my study habits and what not so I would love to have the opportunity to show an improvement in my grades in April, but on the other hand this whole school closure/online class thing has really thrown me off and I am having such a hard time right now with additional worries outside of school that I feel it really is impacting my ability to effectively learn/study. I am also concerned that the differences in grades for april may be more reflective of how people are able to adapt to this sudden change, and how many external obligations they may have (family, caregiving, mental health etc.) that will get in the way of studying. There have also been concerns about an "opt-in" pass/fail to be potentially unfair or prejudice against those who do opt-in, creating pressure to opt-out which would then defeat the whole purpose.
  7. I didn't get a scholarship notification until after the summer. However, don't underestimate the strength of UBC's bursaries. They were even more than the scholarship I received.
  8. Has anyone here scored a position at the business law clinic? Any tips on what it is like and who is most likely to get a position? Many thanks!
  9. Thanks for the info! I'm curious what separated successful applicants from unsuccessful, and what the grades/experience of the successful candidates were!
  10. I'm a little confused about the whole notion of grading in law school. My school does the curve in a way where there average has to be between certain percentage points, but not curved in a sense that some people have to get A's and some have to get D's/F's. I have become acutely aware from this forum that you should be "above the curve" if you want to be successful in OCIs. My question is... could group studying and collaboration hurt one's chances of getting above the curve? Like for example in a group study, someone happens to have a better understanding of the topic and helps the other students understand... doesn't that make it harder for the first student to then stand out? Alternatively, let's say you are a really good student and have a firm grasp of the information, but your section just happens to have more people that really "get it," couldn't your grades then end up being lower than if you took the same class but in a different section with different classmates? (making your ranking partly dependent on the people you end up taking the class with?) I'm sorry if these questions don't make sense... I am just really struggling with the concept of the curve and how it is really "fair" (maybe not the best word?)
  11. Sometimes I genuinely wonder how they pick the small groups
  12. Thank you for your answer! I found this really helpful. I guess I've been surrounding myself with people who are interested in biglaw and it has clouded my vision a bit, particularly because of all the biglaw events at my school that make it seem to be the most popular career choice that everyone is aiming for. Thank you for giving me a bit of perspective!
  13. Thank you! Another question: How hard is it to get a job at a firm for corporate/commercial work not through OCIs? I know I am probably getting ahead of myself a bit, but I don't want to bank on something like OCIs since they really aren't a guarantee. Even though I'm only two months in, I am really worried about not scoring high enough on the curve looking at how bright my classmates are! Do you have any tips for non-conventional ways of getting 2L summers?
  14. I'm in Vancouver and live with my partner. We pay just over 2k a month rent for a relatively new one bedroom. It isn't huge but it is enough for what we need and splitting the rent between the two of us is doable. I am from Calgary and thoroughly believe that paying more for rent is worth the significantly milder weather and shorter winter. Your environment can make a huge difference in your enjoyment of life, even if you are busy with school! 😊
  15. Where do people who aren't above the curve in their classes end up working? It would seem that the majority of students would then not have a chance for firm work? This is all really new to me so I am a bit confused. Is the Vancouver market different form Toronto? Also, if you have connections to a firm (like, more than just a coffee meeting type connection), how do you make that stand out in a cover letter for an OCI? Sorry for the onslaught of questions and for hijacking OP's post!
  16. I'm not sure which forum section to post under, but I am just a 1L so thought I'd post here. Also apologies in advance for the super ignorant question! I'm curious to know if you need to work in big law to be a business/contract/transactional (not sure the exact term) lawyer? Contracts & property are what interest me the most (I don't really have an interest in crim/public interest etc.), but I am also nervous of the whole big law route (OCIs/grade expectations/competitive work environment). I haven't actually gotten any marks yet, but I want to have a back up plan/idea of my options in an area that interests me just in case I don't make the cut for big law! I am interested in the Vancouver market if that makes a difference.
  17. So in order to have a chance at a firm you need to score above the curve? 😦 Are there other ways to get into big law if you are just average?
  18. Mere puffery made me laugh The one thing I am familiar with! Really wish people didn't resort to trying to make themselves sound advantaged at the expense of others' stress/self-confidence, particularly in 1L! Seems like people should know better and be more empathetic to their fellow classmates.
  19. Yes I am at Allard! How could you tell? I find all the classes daunting, but con and public seem like the ones that really could have been easier if I made different choices in undergrad.. Thanks to all the advice here I am feeling a little better though!😊
  20. What type of reasoning specifically? Like a science example? I had to do a lot of research/the scientific method/analysis in undergrad (though in a "soft" science) that I am hoping will help me at least a little bit
  21. Thank you. This does help. Do you have any tips on how to "eliminate the noise"? I am finding it really easy to over think and get worked up and worried about how everyone seems "better" than me at stuff, whether it is because of the school or work experience they have, or because they can answer the questions so eloquently in class without much time to think etc. 😬
  22. I've been a lurker for a while but decided to finally make an account because this has been bothering me for quite a few weeks, and it is really starting to impact my mental health, so I apologize in advance for the vent. I am a 1L and did my undergrad degree in health/psych. I did this under the impression that with law, it was good to pick an undergrad that you had genuine interest in because law is so different from most disciplines. Now that I am in 1L I'm realizing that most people in my class did Poli Sci, and they seem to have a major leg up in a few of the courses (namely public and constitutional law). They often talk about how they've learned or have been introduced to so many of the topics already, how they're bored with the content because of this, and how they don't have to do all the readings because they already know the stuff from poli sci. With the amount of work there is in 1L (7 classes is such a new concept) it seems like by not having the poli sci background, you are disadvantaged in that you have to put in more work in all 7 classes rather than being able to dedicate more time to certain ones. Given that we are being marked on the curve, and 1L grades are so important for future work opportunities, I am get increasingly stressed by the fact that I (and other non-poli sci students) are getting compared on a curve to students who have already had the advantage of learning many of the concepts. In your experience, how have non-poli sci students faired in comparison with grades and such? Does the advantage eventually go away? How do you deal with people in your class gloating about how easy the content is because they've already learned it when you are being thrown into a completely new area and struggling to grasp the concepts as quickly as you would like?
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