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  1. Yes! This is the point I got to before I decided to post here. I'm glad to have this corroborated, even though it isn't the answer I hoped for. I had a sense, but wasn't fully aware of how limiting/not mobile a law degree could be prior to this thread. I wouldn't think twice about gearing for a Canadian school if it weren't going to plunge me into the deepest depths of debt. This is super helpful!! Thank you! Read this 'maine coon-ian' ... over-associative thinking is probably why LSAT reading comprehension is kicking my butt. I digress.
  2. I respect your dogma, I just cling to the belief that there must be more than one way to skin a cat. I think it's valuable to explore angles. It does sound like that might be to my detriment in the law school scenario. You may be right that an alternative profession could be more strategic rather than exhausting my options pursuing a particular qualification at all costs. I'm less committed to the idea of lawyering than I am intent on particular outcomes, which I believed law might be the right tool for -- but not if it means wasting a lot of time and money gaining access. All about that pragmatism. I'm enjoying the LSAT puzzles though, despite modest success. This is an excellent explanation, thank you for the detail. (I am Dutch, interested in UNDRIP and figured den Haag might be a good spot. Couple glaring oversights to be sure. Read: not pragmatic. Grateful to have the opportunity to discuss.) What are some alternatives marginal candidates might pursue? I imagine there are heaps of associated professions, but without some experience it's difficult to know what options exist. Put somewhat differently, have you encountered non-lawyers who have proven to be particularly instrumental to your work? If so, what did they do? Again a bit of a departure. I'm gonna search the forum a little, it seems likely that this has been covered elsewhere.
  3. I appreciate you putting this so directly. I had certainly hoped otherwise -- maybe that someone had found some weird little loophole of value in it, or at least saved a bit of tuition. Kind of seems like any tuition saved in the EU wouldn't be worth the hassle of trying to get back to Canada, though. Duly noted re: international human rights. I am definitely curious to hear what you have to say on the topic and I do think it would be valuable to me -- but a departure from the discussion at hand and one that probably requires a better conceptual understanding than I have at present. That said, if you are willing and have the time, I'd very much appreciate a PM (or another thread, for posterity).
  4. Thank you. It's clear I need to step back and learn about the process more broadly. Maybe I can try and re-phrase to clarify what I am hoping to learn from this thread: How might EU citizenship be an advantage in pursuing a law degree to eventually practice in Canada? Simplified line of thinking: - Would like to be employable in Canada. - Not particularly competitive for Canadian schools. - But, dual citizen and considering how to work that angle.
  5. Probably partially as a result of my LLM/LLB confusion. I had been looking at LLMs more in the vein of international humanitarian law, which I assumed would be less of a screw-over than a foreign civil law degree.
  6. I actually hadn't considered England due to concerns about Brexit. I have focused on programs in Spain, France or the Netherlands (although open to pretty much anywhere). Many places besides England do seem to have programs taught in English. I have a few ulterior motives -- to improve my fluency in Spanish or French, or to be proximal to family and the International Court in den Haag. I recognize that this approach might pose unexpected challenges, but I simply don't know enough about it to be able to anticipate them. Perhaps it is more challenging to return to Canada with a law degree from France than it would be from England, for example? I'm sort of struggling to suss this kind of thing out through the Googs. I'll keep at it though!
  7. Fair! 160 and 163 were my most recent results from timed preptests, just studying out of the LSAC books in the library. I would like to practice a great deal more before an official LSAT. I will look more into Queens and Western. I'm still foggy on how the whole European JD/LLB process compares to Canada's. I was under the impression that one pursues law directly out of high school/at the undergraduate level in Europe and that a bachelor's degree is not a requirement, as it is in Canada. An LLM came up when I tried to find European law programs at a 'masters' level, or something that might build on my bachelor's. This feedback is helpful in re-directing me, thank you.
  8. Hi folks -- long time lurker, grateful for the information posted here. I hope I have this in the right topic. I am a dual citizen (Canada & EU), age 28 (potentially discretionary), with rather unspectacular grades (I will post my stats below). Due in part to the cost savings and how uncompetitive I am for Canadian schools, I am considering pursuing an LLM in Europe. I have read a bit about how complicated the process is for people negotiating the accreditation process in Canada for law degrees from overseas. I have also read some concerns about the utility of LLM programs. I see a few options: - Study very hard for the LSAT, apply to less competitive Canadian schools; - Do some upgrading or another degree (don't mind, but trying to keep costs down, and it seems some schools do not take upgrading courses or second degrees into account anyway); - Move abroad and never come home ... I am hoping for advice as to what my best course of action would be from those with experience navigating these systems. Perhaps there is something I haven't thought of? What would you do? Much appreciation. 160-163 LSAT UBC cGPA 3.1/4.33 (73%) L2 3.1/4.33 B2 3.2/4.33
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