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  1. Ditto. I also had colleagues who took the program and spoke very positively of it. It's a great way to get to know people before you start school, including people from other schools across the country. Also - anything to ease the burden of 1L would be a benefit IMO!
  2. Mile End would be my go to - I've been staying there for years now every time I visit the city. Plateau is great too, but I like that Mile End is just a little more removed, yet still has lots to enjoy. Jean Talon market is also a godsend.
  3. congratulations on your acceptance to Osgoode! one book that I often see recommended (and own myself) is Adam Dodek's "The Canadian Constitution." it covers a lot of the basics of Canadian constitutional law, and provides a high-level history of major historical events. here's a summary of the book: "The Canadian Constitution makes Canada''s Constitution readily accessible to readers for the first time. It includes the complete text of the Constitution Acts of 1867 and 1982 as well as a glossary of key terms, a short history of the Constitution, and a timeline of important constitutional events. The Canadian Constitution also explains how the Supreme Court of Canada works and describes the people and issues involved in leading constitutional cases. Author Adam Dodek, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, provides the only index to the Canadian Constitution as well as fascinating facts about the Supreme Court and the Constitution that have never been published before. This book is a great primer for those coming to Canada''s Constitution for the first time as well as a useful reference work for students and scholars." I would also recommend familiarizing yourself with Canadian law as related to Indigenous peoples. you could start with the Final Report from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada (available for free online) for an overview of the history and impact of some of Canada's policies. Osgoode has an emphasis on addressing these issues in many of the classes offered. are there any areas of law you're particularly interested in learning about?
  4. Do you mind if I send you a DM about your experience/insights? I'm weighing a couple of options in the policy sphere and would love to avoid inadvertently landing in a paper-pushing role
  5. I wouldn't be surprised if we do! the bar in this practice area is so small!
  6. I have heard the same, even directly from my own mentors
  7. I appreciate your perspective on this @TKNumber3. I've been having internal debates about whether it's better to land an opportunity practicing law outside of my practice area just to develop legal skills (while knowing full well that I'll be miserable doing the work), or landing something in my area of interest that may be considered "relevant experience" that could help with a transition back into law. I've been careful to discuss with hiring managers whether these policy opportunities would still allow me to use legal skills, and have questioned how much they work directly with relevant laws, and have been satisfied with the answers given such that I wouldn't be losing substantive knowledge.
  8. that is exactly how I landed this current opportunity, and I will take that advice to heart if I decide to try to make the move to DOJ.
  9. thanks for the reassurance @Deadpool. these were the types of thoughts that I've been having as well. I like your suggestion of joining the relevant OBA sections, and to continue networking with lawyers in the field.
  10. all excellent points, @Deadpool. thank you for providing insight re those who have tried to make the move. I work in environmental/Aboriginal law, and am open to municipal law work as well. all of my summer, articling, volunteering, and post-call experience is in this area. I'm currently anchored to Toronto, which has been the one thing really holding me back in terms of finding work in this field. I feel like I've either interviewed at (sometimes multiple interviews) or applied to every place there is to work in this field in the city. Toronto is certainly not a hub for this type of work and I'm finding the opportunities minimal as it's not necessarily a field that's gotten busier as a result of the pandemic. I'm not planning to stay long-term (unless, of course, I love it), but was worried moreso about working in policy for a year and making the switch back at that time if I decide policy work isn't for me.
  11. hi @Ruthenium, thanks for your response! I have been doing some contract legal work over the last 10 months, but I take your point on having essentially no hands-on work as an associate. I'm honestly not sure whether I'll love policy work or if it's for me, but I've been trying to explore all facets of law and law-related work both throughout law school and after before I really commit to anything. all of my summer positions + articling job + post-call work has been in quite a niche practice area, and this policy opportunity aligns with my interests in that regard, and quite honestly I'd rather take a non-law job than a junior associate role doing something like insurance defence or commercial litigation, which are both so far outside of my area of interest (and I know I'd be miserable). I think my ideal transition would be to move to DOJ, and having access to internal federal job postings might make that a little easier as there would be more opportunity. hope your law job improves with time!
  12. Osgoode alum here. if you're interested in litigation, one good thing about Osgoode is that there are numerous clinical programs and volunteer opportunities to get your hands dirty and develop your skills while you're in school. being in Toronto also lends itself to more opportunities for volunteer placements throughout the community by virtue of the size of the city. I'm not sure some of these opportunities would be available elsewhere in smaller cities (i.e. in Queens). you're right in that Osgoode has less of a big-law approach and it's known for having a more progressive atmosphere. I can't recall whether there were classes targeted specifically at medical malpractice but there were certainly tort classes and health law classes. I agree with @SadNWO that there's really no reason to stress about schools until you get in somewhere. having options to choose from is a luxury that you may not have and I would encourage you to apply more broadly than just the three schools you have mentioned.
  13. speaking as a fellow planner, work/career opportunities is the one space I leave the door wide open. you never know whether you'll like something until you try it, and you don't want to close the door on opportunities because of one perceived drawback. when I was in my second year of undergrad I dropped out of my coop program because I refused to work a "desk" job. times passes and people change and you grow to learn what realistic expectations look like. I was regularly at my desk until 11PM during articling. it sucked, but I loved the work and I had great articling colleagues that made it fun. that being said, each firm has a different culture, and the best thing you can do is chat with people who have jobs you're interested in, and ask them about their experience. if there's a firm where you live where someone does something of interest to you, send an email and ask to have a virtual coffee or something! attend career panels at your school. keep asking questions and keep learning, but you really aren't going to figure it out until you try. at least a law degree is transferable to many other career paths if you get there and realize practicing law isn't for you.
  14. hi all, I'm contemplating making a move into policy with the federal government, but am worried about whether that will limit my ability to move back into law in the future (should I decide that I want to). has anyone made the jump? anything I should be aware of / take into account now? I've been offered a fairly senior position in my field of interest, and my perspective is that the position will give me the chance to develop transferable skills (such as communication with clients, drafting and providing advice to senior individuals, and being the one to actually give the advice) much more than a junior associate position might. the job search has been incredibly long and daunting during the pandemic, with countless interviews leading to no offers so far. after 10 months of no success, I'm really just in need of a FT paying position. thanks for your advice!
  15. New calls would be lucky to make half of that (speaking from Toronto perspective). Public interest environmental law positions start around $70,000. Private practice at a smaller firm might be low to mid 80s, and doing corporate environmental law work at a Bay Street firm you'll likely be $100-120,000 starting out. I can't speak to how much bonuses would be in private practice. Government (federal and provincial) starts around the mid 80s as well.
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