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IrishStew

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  1. Not required for UNB, UBC or Manitoba either. AFAIK, the schools (outside of Ontario schools that all require them) that require reference letters are UofC, Dal and TRU. Also, I'm not sure how much weight reference letters even have... I don't know how bad of a situation you were in with your undergraduate program, but I'm sure you could think of 1 professor that at least knows who you are and can write something... If you're going back to school for the sole purpose of making a connection with a prof for a reference then you're making the wrong choice. Take that time to do well on the LSAT, and take a diagnostic immediately.
  2. What I'm trying to get at is there are more helpful answers than just critiquing the question that was asked. OP has recognized that it's a hard question to answer, and that not every case is the same. They're not looking for a hard and fast rule or get rich quick scheme. As in my other example- finance jobs pay more than human resources jobs, but at the same time, a talented HR person who has a tremendous work ethic (and maybe a little luck) can make more than someone in finance. And, to put the cherry on top, having people work for you rather than working for them is bound to make you more money in any industry if you're running a profitable business and scaling accordingly. A medical school student asking "which professions make the most money", is almost just as subjective, and I'm sure some doctors would have cookie-cutter answers such as "well that depends on how hard you work and how talented you are", but the principles can be applied to give helpful advice at least. I can tell you, and I'm not a doctor, that a plastic surgeon who owns their own clinic makes more money per year than a general family doctor. Surgeons make more as well, and among surgeons I'd wager that heart and neuro-surgeons make more money on aggregate than ortho. With that said I'll acknowledge your argument that a talented and hardworking ortho surgeon can make more than a heart surgeon (perhaps they're business-oriented and partner with professional sports teams on the side, who knows). This conversation gets cyclical real quick. Point is that there's no need to be rude and condescending to someone who is asking a genuine question with less experience than you. Sometimes it feels like a select few lawyers on this site just like to argue and flex their muscles over small details.
  3. I'm not sure I agree with picking OP apart for asking this question - why isn't it fair? I think it's relatively common knowledge that finance jobs in business make more than HR or marketing jobs on aggregate. That's just one example, and I can foresee someone jumping in saying something along the lines of "that's not necessarily true!!!!" The same can be said for @Diplock's analogy of baseball positions. In hockey, for example, centermen get paid a premium for their services, and players who score goals (as opposed to offering other positives for the team such as assists) are also paid a premium. In baseball I'm sure the same question could be answered based on which position is most valuable or sought after defensively (for example, I think 2nd base and left field tend to be positions that are easier to fill). Your average run of the mill management consultant will also likely make more than your average accountant as well. I think this is a question that has so many variables attached, which have been pointed out, but it's also a question that can be answered at a high-level. Happy some were able to provide insights rather than criticize.
  4. I know this wasn't asked, and I don't agree with this, but your undergraduate degree plays little to no role in acceptance to law school. But yes - lot's of people I know with science backgrounds in law school, and as someone said above, it's a great segway into IP
  5. Lol this is not legal advice whatsoever; it's just an intellectual and philosophical discussion we were intrigued with. Your points about ethics, contractual obligations, and lack of experience came up in this chat, but the premise of the argument is what we're not sure of. Assuming their contract with their employer allowed them to and this Aunt insisted that their beloved niece/nephew represent them rather than another lawyer... Would they even be *allowed* to?
  6. This is a random question, but a friend of mine got into a discussion and we weren't sure about one of the premises. If you work for let's say a large corporate firm and a family friend for some reason needs a lawyer and cannot afford one for whatever reason, are you allowed to represent them outside of your work hours? For a more concrete question, let's say you're a 3rd year call working on Bay Street and your Aunt gets a DUI. Can you, even though you won't have the best expertise in that area, become her lawyer and represent her outside of your job?
  7. Rejected. Not a big deal as this was a back-up option for me Hopefully someone gets in that really wants a spot! 3.7/159
  8. Appreciate the replies. Several posts got a bit off topic and read into what I said a bit more than I had anticipated. To clarify, I have no problem professionally networking and understand its merits and I'm not going to sit in the corner in law school and avoid everyone haha. "Keep my head down" is a common phrase in my family that may have been misinterpreted. I simply just wanted to hear an introvert's point of view on going to law school, and this was helpful! Thanks everyone
  9. The thread is literally titled: "Should I be Concerned Attending a School Where my LSAT & GPA are Below Medians?" OP is asking if his/her LSAT/GPA matter for law school success. I said no, because there is a lot of noise in the data points of your LSAT/GPA score that are not accounted for. One of those externalities is limited studying, and an example given was that two people with the same score will not necessarily have the same success. I think you're making this much more complicated than it is.
  10. This just adds more noise to the equation and further shows that every score has more to it, so you can't read scores as black and white success predictors
  11. I got accepted to UNB and my app never changed from that message. It's generic for everyone
  12. I agree with the rest of your post, even though it's somewhat unrelated to my point, and I think it is an important lesson that you can have a self-fulfilling prophecy going into law school. My point is that there is a story behind your GPA and LSAT and your scores are not necessarily accurate predictive measures of how well you'll do in law school because someone with the same scores may have had easier or more fortunate circumstances that gave them the same scores. Yes, sure a working parent can get a 170 without studying. You're just moving the scale. My point is that I am more inclined to believe that a working parent who scores a 170 on a whim will outperform a student who scored 170 after studying for a year and taking the test multiple times. Substitute working parent for whatever group of people you wish - any group that needs to perform at a high level (and does) without the same time available as another group (i.e. varsity athlete, parent, full-time worker, etc). I am however going to contest you assertion that 40 hours is a lot of time to study for the LSAT... Take one look at this forum to see the number of people who ask questions like "should I take the test for a 4th time?"... Look at the number of posts where people are looking for a tutor as well, or looking to buy books. There's an entire sub Reddit dedicated to the LSAT where I've read many posts about students studying for the LSAT for more than a year to get the score they desire. I think it's extremely common for undergraduate students who don't have any dependents to set aside time significant time to study for the LSAT. This is definitely less common for the same groups I mentioned above because they don't have that kind of time. Like you said the test technically doesn't require any studying at all, but I don't personally know anyone that went into that test room without any sort of preparation and scored to the best of their ability... If you took 4 prep tests, reviewed them properly, and drilled down logic games for a few hours here and there those 40 hours add up quick over the course of a month.
  13. I wouldn't consider 40 hours of total studying to be a lot or the LSAT, but my main point was that there is much more of a story behind a GPA and an LSAT score and that everyone comes from a different circumstance. For every working parent who studied on a whim for the LSAT there is also a student right out of undergrad who began prepping for the LSAT the summer after their sophomore year and took the test 4 times. These applicants may have the same score, but I don't think that score is a predictive measure to say they'll have equal success in law school.
  14. I'll also add (I'm a 0L so I'm just making an assumption here from my personal case) that I was working full time and studying for the LSAT and scored a 159. I studied on weekends for about a month. People I know studied for 3-4 months as a "full-time job" treating the LSAT as their 9-5 6 days a week and scored 1-3 points higher than me and got into similar schools. I don't think their score in this situation is a reflection of them being smart than me and more likely to succeed in law school. I think it just says that they were more prepared and put in the effort required to get a better score, where I didn't, and I will in law school when that's my sole focus. My undergraduate GPA is also right around the median, but I know the program that I graduated from is nationally recognized as being very strong, so I think that will serve me well. I will also be below the median but I'm not worried.
  15. No that's not the case. Just not outgoing and social. I won't be avoiding people, I just prefer doing my own thing
  16. Should I be worried going into law school as an introvert? I like keep to myself and want to get my work done independently and I'm not particularly interested in big law. I know it's better to create relationships with fellow students, but I'd prefer to do that through study groups and what not rather than networking and drinking events and frosh week type events. I just want to do my work, keep my head down, and graduate if that makes sense. I know employment opportunities will arise more frequently if I put myself out there, but I've had no problem in the past professionally
  17. So I just filled out a generic application on My Calgary, is that the only form I need to fill out to be considered for scholarships?
  18. Off topic, and I know nothing as a 0L, but this seems to stray away from the general sentiment I've read online here and what I've heard from friends...
  19. Another point that no one has brought up is the return on investment for @Fil Law school in the end is an investment, and it's an expensive one. Do the math and see if it's worth it for you and assess where your current career is.
  20. I asked the same question here and someone replied saying they deferred because of a pregnancy. Also mentioned that valid reasons seem to be medical, personal (loss of loved one), marriage, or something to enhance your resume such as to do a masters or participate in an elite athletic competition. They said saving money and travelling are not great reasons. I know a friend of a friend who deferred their acceptance because they got into legal troubles.
  21. Question: if you want to move to Vancouver right after being called to the bar why would you go through with the process in Ontario in the first place? Is it ease of finding articling? When switching provinces do you still need to go through all the paperwork, such as the good character requirement, with the new bar or do they just assume you're good to go because you're already licensed and you just pay the fee and attend the ceremony?
  22. I spoke to a friend about this who is a UofC law student. They told me the Calgary real estate market is fairly easy to navigate last minute. Also, doesn't UofC have a great 1L recruiting cycle for Calgary jobs? I'm trying to decide when to get a lease as well
  23. Any reason why you're looking to sign a lease by July 1 vs. August or Sept 1?
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