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  1. Hear, hear. One of the most important things I've learned the legal profession early-on: KNOW YOUR VALUE. It's horrible what I've heard some law students/articling students put up with. The worst part is some of them feel stuck in these terrible conditions because they are so afraid of what will happen if they leave. However, there are many wonderful leaders and mentors in our profession. I hope you find a better position OP and best of luck as you start law school!
  2. You have to be very careful about how you conduct yourself in this profession. The OP has worked incredibly hard to get where they are! No need to undermine that with childish names.
  3. Please - for your own good - stop with with the cutesy names - baby call, baby lawyer etc. You completely undermine your credibility and seem insecure. Step into your position and own it.
  4. Ps - this reminds me of the time a mid size Toronto firm asked me to write a long research paper prior to an interview. It was on an extremely specific topic. I knew they were trying to get free work for one of their cases. I politely told them off and never looked back.
  5. Keep looking or do the LPP. I hate to say this, but I have never heard of an unpaid articling position ending well. As people have already mentioned - menial jobs, no real experience, crazy hours. From what I've heard from friends who did the LPP, you actually get some valuable training and access to useful networking events. I believe most of them were compensated for articling too. It's only March no reason to worry. I walked away from a PAID position because it was an awful environment. I would be very hesistant to work for a place like this.
  6. The only benefit in joining this firm is the mentorship. If you are comfortable in your area of practice and have at least one mentor go out on your own. Given your financial situation it may be worthwhile to find a part-time job. I know quite a few SPs who have part-time jobs while they are building their practice.
  7. "Financially Safe" are you serious? In today's economy nothing is guaranteed. Not even for lawyers. You strike me as someone who lacks the discipline to buckle down and make the most out of your current program; yet, you want a stable job at the end of it. Life lesson: nothing is guaranteed and no one owes you a job. I understand you are dealing with some personal issues. You should seek academic and mental health counselling to help you get back on track. Best of luck to you.
  8. 1. Some people will not graduate with an articling position and will have to go to great lengths to find a position. 2. Some people will have awful experiences articling. I had a position that lasted one day, I left and never went back. I was yelled at and berated by a sole practitioner. Don't "stick it out" it's not worth your self-respect and dignity. Anyone that tells you to stick it out doesn't care about you. No-my "reputation" wasn't ruined. Yes- I found another position within two weeks. 3. Some people will job hunt for 8-12+ months. It can be depressing. Apply to non-law jobs in the meantime, it's not the end of the world. 4. Many lawyers are too proud to admit they struggled to find articling and/or an associate position but trust me you are not alone if you found this post by googling "i cant find an articling position" or "i cant find an associate lawyer position" or "im an unemployed lawyer". Keep your chin up and stop letting a title define your worth. 5. Yes this can happen if you have good grades, summered/articled at a "top firm" or went to a prestigious Canadian law school. 6. Yes it can leave you feeling worthless. But you're not. Stop the negative thinking it will get you nowhere. 7. Yes there's a whole wonderful world outside of our law "bubble". Get out of the damn bubble. 8. I went through all of this. I survived. I have a wonderful position now. 9. I am posting this to give someone the support they need to push through. 10. You are smart and talented. There are so many opportunities out there for you. The world will beat you enough, don't add to it by beating yourself up.
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