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  1. Great to see all the discussion here. There are clearly a plethora of issues and concerns that must be addressed as Osgoode and the legal profession work through massive changes, challenges, and uncertainties. Unquestionably though, we are all in this together as a society, and the current global health crisis affects everyone. On that note, it makes a great deal more sense to reserve Toronto's limited safe public transit capacity to current members of the workforce (as small a number as that may be at present). Therefore, students should mostly be learning virtually in 2020-2021, which will free up seats on the TTC for members of society who are actually contributing to desperately needed GDP/economic activity here and now. Transit users must be able to safely physically distance for as long as necessary during this pandemic. Universities have largely proven themselves to be a resilient institution through all of this. An otherwise decade-long transition to virtual learning was done in only a matter of weeks. Think about that, and what we have all just witnessed with our Zoom and Microsoft Teams classes, group projects, and thesis defenses. Additionally, exams were just moved online last month too, not exclusively for law schools, but for virtually all post-secondary students across Canada. Even those in hairstyling/barber school took their manikins home to complete their trade certifications safely from a distance. Looking beyond law school, consider the recent changes embraced by the legal profession. In some instances, lawyers are appearing virtually before courts & parole boards, and firms have largely left their prime downtown office space empty. But the legal profession continues to do important work, albeit in a virtual way in many cases. This might even be the reality for some of us when we graduate. So for the law students entirely against virtual learning, perhaps you need to consider whether or not you can also handle the early part of your career going online too. Or, maybe some changes will be more permanent. Can you adapt, or will you throw your hands in the air if the world doesn't function exactly how you want it to, with handshakes and crowded cocktail parties, as was the case in our pre-pandemic society? In short, I think that we should be showing how intelligent and resilient we all are. We must adapt to the times because we have little or no choice. We do not control all aspects of the situation; the virus has its own agency, and it will do what it does, which is not entirely based on how we act and interact. We might slow the spread of this novel virus, but we may not be able to stop it (i.e. see the 1918 flu pandemic). Let's be sensible and make lemonade with all these lemons we've just been handed. Note: I also understand that there are many incoming and current students who might be feeling a great deal of anxiety and stress right now. Maybe you lost your job, or you're not sure what your clinic position might look like in the upcoming year. Maybe you are also pondering over the future of the legal profession itself, or how this virus has impacted you and your loved ones. Be sure to talk to friends and family. Now is a time to reach out and try to find opportunities in a challenging time. Whatever the future may be, we will be part of it. So let's focus on things that we actually can control (i.e.: physically distancing from others to slow the spread), rather than matters which are out of our hands. Try to be positive. You are not alone. And I hope that all Osgoode students, past, present, and incoming, and their loved ones, are all safe. Be well my friends, and breathe. P.S.: I agree entirely that something must be done about tuition. Perhaps free tuition should be back on the Government of Ontario's agenda, for at least this school year. I mean, how enticing does $40K a year in books/fees/tuition look right now, not to mention living expenses? If access to justice and law student debt were issues before, this may very well be a crippling situation in the near future, if the health/economic crisis continue. Hopefully the Ford Government does the right thing. They need to re-regulate professional school tuition. Or, let's all hope that Osgoode does the right thing, and substantially lowers or makes free tuition for this year. Having said that, how will universities now navigate a massive loss of revenue from international students? Whoa... lots to consider here, and none of it is easy. Let's hope for the best. Hang in there friends :)
  2. Hopefully everyone continues to do well and stays healthy as the days and weeks continue to pass by during Covid-19. I'm currently in a joint program at Osgoode/York, and will be entering 1L this August with a number of you on this forum. How is everyone feeling? Are people proceeding as though we will have classes in-person this fall, or are some of you already planning alternatives (i.e.: holding off on confirming your travel/move to Toronto this August, if you're not from here)? I've read a few comments (some snarky) on this forum about how upset people might be if classes go online. But really, if there is a global health crisis & a legitimate threat to our safety and well-being on campus, then why would you want to attend classes in-person? It seems to me that the sensible thing is to move everything online to avoid that potential second, third, etc pandemic wave. As a current joint program student, I can tell you that these last few weeks have not been easy. But, I can also tell you that some of the best times have been attending Zoom seminars, collaborating on projects using Microsoft Teams, and engaging with all of the same material and people in a virtual way. The light is at the end of the tunnel for this term now, with online classes wrapping up last week, and about 90% of my assignments now complete. But, it's time to start thinking about the fall, and what that might look like. How is everyone preparing, and what are your thoughts? Will we be the first ever Osgoode class to begin law school online? For those interested in reading more about pandemic "waves" in a Canadian university setting, read this Spanish Flu article from the University of Guelph: https://theontarion.com/2020/04/09/unprecedented-times/
  3. Do any past or present Osgoode students have any insight on commuting vs. living on campus? Is the additional cost of living at Osgoode Chambers/Passy really worth it, or should I simply go with a ~2-3 hour daily roundtrip commute to/from the western GTA?
  4. @Tiff91 Tuition is the exact same in all regulated university programs in Ontario. Hence, Ryerson, U of T, and York all have the exact same undergraduate fees, in virtually all cases that you mentioned. I'm not sure where you received the misinformation regarding undergraduate tuition in Ontario. In terms of your other questions, some of the posts above contain good suggestions and information. Focus on subjects and programs that you enjoy, and work as hard as you possibly can. Don't even give up 1% of an "easy" participation mark; leave nothing on the table throughout your post-secondary career. Be open to challenges and changes along the way, too. Finally, focus on learning vital skills that will be transferable outside of university, such as: critical thinking, group/team work, public speaking, research, writing, networking, and Microsoft Excel. Many employers desire these skills, and there are countless university programs which can help you develop in all or most of these in-demand areas. Last word: I am graduating from U of T this June, and it is an excellent school. In every case, the grades that I received were a direct reflection of the amount of work that I put into each class, as well as my command of the course subject matter. Many students do not put in the work or simply lack subject matter command, and anecdotally, these students are the ones that cannot believe that they land right in U of T's "acceptable" course average range of C- to B-. Conversely, I know many students who perform at the top of their classes academically, and almost always earn an A or higher, including me. Good luck!
  5. I’m glad you found that helpful, albeit imperfect and certainly not indicative of 1/3 of all spots remaining open at this time. Providing that is your OLSAS calculated CGPA, you are slightly above Osgoode’s 2018 Median CGPA, and slightly below the Median LSAT for last year (83rd Percentile; i.e.: ~165). Having said that, I believe that many law schools, including Osgoode, look beyond just the stats. For example, the overall strength of your application will be evaluated against the entire pool of applicants. A strong personal statement or excellent references could very well push you “over the edge” and into the offer of admission category. Try not to stress too much, which is easier said than done. I wish you only the best of luck!
  6. Well, what do you mean by "major round" of offers? Don't you think that all Canadian law schools, including Toronto and Western, have completed a major portion of their offers of admission (over the past ~4.5 months or so)? Do the existing offers constitute two-thirds or 75% of the 2022 classes, or more? I don't know. But since I have a few minutes, let's do a little analysis below: There are ~75 members here that have indicated admission to Osgoode for 2019, so far. Last year at this time, there were ~77 members that indicated an offer of admission. Since there is no statistical difference here, let's use the remaining 2018 acceptance posts to infer what we may see for the remainder of 2019. Last year, there were 16 forum members that were accepted between March 8-April 1, and another 11 forum member acceptances between April 1-May 1. Finally, 5 forum members indicated that they received an offer from Osgoode between May 1 and June 30. No acceptances were posted after this date. Statistically, ~29% of 2018 Osgoode acceptance posts occurred on this forum between March 8-June 30, 2018. Not bad. Also, keep in mind the obvious: posts here may be inaccurate, and only ~38% of Osgoode's Class of 2021 actually made a public post here about their offer of admission. Based on this, I'd argue that the majority of offers have already been made. To me, this is the "major round." But as you can see from the numbers above, there are still more offers coming. Sit tight, and good luck! I'm sure some students will be in across the country as late as Labour Day.
  7. @Lawstudent97 Based on attendance at Welcome Day in February, I would not expect another "major round." My guess is that they have sent offers out to fill nearly all seats. Of course, not all applicants will accept, so more offers will be sent out over the course of the next 4-8 weeks. But I don't think it'll be "major," and it's likely to be after April 1. Time will tell, I guess.
  8. @Mandy555 Just out of curiosity, why are you concerned with signing up for an email that may never be used (since you provisionally accepted)? Also, why is anyone here concerned about signing up for an email that won't likely be used for at least 5 months? Do you plan to start using it for some unknown purpose? Certainly, you won't be receiving anything from Osgoode until you're told to sign up for an email. Relax everyone.
  9. On its own, the email is not the admissions package. If you did not receive the package via a link in the second paragraph, then contact Osgoode directly. Same goes for @Nachklang. The forum isn't a good place to solicit a copy.
  10. I won't comment on chances, specifically, because I am an applicant myself and I lack the experience that some of the members here possess. However, it would also be relevant to share if you applied in the general category at each school, or if you applied as a mature student based on your work experience. At any rate, take any feedback that you receive here with a grain of salt. Every application is unique, and law schools will assess your complete file, several of which typically "see beyond the numbers." Best of luck!
  11. @LLawS That sounds like quite a difficult situation to be in. @ProfReader offered a good suggestion regarding the lease; maybe don't just read up on it, but ascertain good local legal advice on the matter. If Dalhousie offers you admission, I'm sure you'd rather stay in your current apartment, so why not do everything you can to stay put? Also, employers are unlikely to hire a person that says, "I might be available until August, or I might be available until August 2020, but I won't know for sure until a law school notifies me." While it may seem unethical, I would not be upfront about this in an interview. I'd suggest only notifying your prospective employer as @Luckycharm said, after you receive an offer of admission. Otherwise, you may find it impossible to be hired. Aside from the above advice, try your best to focus on aspects of your life that do not involve the uncertainty that comes with the law school admission process. Focus on you, living a healthy lifestyle, locating meaningful employment, etc. Many of life's situations and circumstances are largely out of your control, so instead, focus on areas and aspects of your life that are in your full and total control. Put your best foot forward, and good luck!!
  12. Good stuff. Congratulations and good luck! It's an honour and privilege to even receive one offer. I wish you the best.
  13. For comparison purposes, I have not yet received an offer from uOttawa with the same LSAT score (awaiting January re-write), and my CGPA is 3.71. L2/B2 is ~ 3.9. However, I applied as a mature student, so that likely isn't much help to you. Maybe have a look at last year's Accepted thread to see where you might stand. That's a really interesting and confident approach, to say the least. Any word back yet from the nine schools, eight of which offered you admission last year? Also, did you only apply to schools that you have decisively chosen would be suitable to attend in September 2019, or are you still undecided? I wish I had your money.
  14. Actually, according to AJD19 in another thread: Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Dont worry about high school grades, apart from having good enough grades to get into college/university. I was expelled from high school and ended up getting into 8 law schools. Just do well during your undergrad. You can do an undergrad in literally anything. Edited November 21, 2018 by AJD19 None of the eight law schools that accepted you were willing to defer your admission while you worked full-time for the past year?
  15. I love your story because it shares many similarities with my own journey to law school. I have been working in a great career for the past few years, with excellent pay > $100K and a bit less vacation time than you (3 weeks). While I cannot say that I have ever felt particularly "unfulfilled" in my career, which you said you were, I can say that my dream of attending law school was always in the back of my mind. I chose to look at it like this: Option A) Continue on my current career trajectory and climb to the top of the corporate ladder in a capacity that did not involve becoming a lawyer. The work is inherently interesting, accompanied with a fairly large social impact, which is most important to me. Option B) Attend law school and attempt to make an even greater social impact in work that might be more challenging and even more interesting. Start at the bottom in a legal career, perhaps with slightly lesser pay than I am currently making, but work tirelessly to advance my career and make a real difference in the world. Ultimately, I decided that I did not want to reach the age of 40, 50, or even 60, and have the thought in the back of my mind: "What if?" or "What could have been?" So here I am, set to attend law school in September. I realize that I don't meet the criteria that you prefaced your question with, but I do think that you have to consider everything and never regret the things that you do in life; regret the things that you don't do, instead. Having said all that, there's nothing to lose if you do apply for September 2020 admission with your high CGPA and LSAT. Hopefully, you will receive an offer of admission, and then, you can really get thinking, ponder it all, and make a potentially life-changing, career altering decision. Good luck!
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