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  1. I have classmates doing all sorts of things. In terms of legal work, I know people working: on Bay St, at a small firm, Crown's Office or Courthouse, Research Assistantships, and various fellowships. Many others are doing what most students would do over the summer break. That is, working in whatever industry/field they can get hired in. There are a lot who are even just hanging out and working on themselves. There is absolutely no pressure to get a legal job in your summer after first-year.
  2. I just finished 1L and all I can suggest for you is to relax. I'm not trying to come off as rude but I genuinely mean that. What might possibly happen is that you will create this rigid plan for tackling school, just to throw it all out in your first week. Start by talking to upper years in your school. See what they thought of professors, how they approached 1L, and things that they avoided. That is the best way in my opinion. I had different styles of case briefing for contracts than I did for criminal. Likewise, property was much different than constitutional. It had to do with different teaching styles and just what I knew was needed for the exam. For exams, just talk to your professors. Again, different professors like different things. On one hand, I had a professor who would give marks for people who kitchen-sinked answers. On the other, I had a professor who would penalize students for doing the exact same thing. So the IRAC and FIRAC methods you speak about are good to have a general idea but are by no means things that you should live by. I have never heard of anyone using commercial outline at my school. To be honest, I don't even know what that is. Please don't pay money for these. Also, don't read the entire case if you don't need to. Most text books use case excerpts which include only what you need. Going into read the entire case will only confuse you more - especially early on when you don't know why you're reading a case. Some cases can stand for multiple things so it's best to refer to the textbook at the beginning. In terms of outlining, do whatever you like. Early in first semester, I would outline before every class. I would come prepared with outlines and then add to them during the class. As I got better at pulling information from cases, the frequency of outlining and length of my outlines shrunk significantly. I went from about a page per case to a couple lines at most. By November, I would outline when I felt like it. That's it. If that meant once a week, once a month, or sporadically throughout the semester, that's what I did. By second semester (and I'm not proud of this), I waited until a few weeks before finals because I knew what I was capable of doing. In the end it all worked out.
  3. Personally, I did not care where my CANs came from. Frankly, I couldn't tell you where most of them came from or how well they did. What I did do was cross-reference. I would compare CANs with each other, stuff from the internet, and my own notes. If they were saying the same thing then I was able to trust them more. You'll even find that many CANs have the exact same content as each other or pull from the same sources that you find. What ends up happening, at least with me, was that I would create my own CANs using a mix of all the resources that I had.
  4. Hick pays their first year associates 100k. I learned this through networking with current associates.
  5. In terms of classes, I can't tell you a definitive answer because I have only ever experienced 1L at one law school. However, what I can tell you is the out-of-class time. Out-of-class time is 100% determined by yourself and yourself only. My schedule was limited because of other responsibilities, but my day consisted of my usual morning routines (if I did not have an early class) then a majority of my day would be consumed by class and studying. However, I always made time for other things that matter to me. It's a marathon, not a race. You will figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I know that doesn't really answer your question because I don't believe there is one. I worked from around 9:30am-12:30am or 1:30pm-12:30am with breaks in between (during the week) depending on what I had coming up and extracurriculars. Friday evenings and weekends would usually be free. I did this because I liked having my weekends to relax and do nothing. However, this was not everyday as some days class would be cancelled or I get my work done much quicker than anticipated. Also - those times work in the gym, intramural sports, and extracurriculars. I consider those to be my 'breaks' from the academic side. With that being said, I know others who worked a lot more and others who worked a lot less. I am by no means a top student but I'm far from the worst. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that you should not necessarily worry about what your schedule will look like now because that's of little use.
  6. If you’re looking at specific firms, either look at NALP or check the firm website as some will list their compensation.
  7. On that same note. I, and a few others, also got a call from Zarek Taylor without receiving an ITC. The same applies to MAG I believe.
  8. I didn’t mean anything bad by mentioning that. I thought it was interesting because I didn’t expect coworkers to be that ‘comfortable’ for a lack of a better word.
  9. That’s something that I haven’t considered. I’ve only really networked deeply with boutique firms. This is good to know for full-service firms. Thanks for this!
  10. Instead of studying for my final midterm, I decided to chat with you lot! Since starting law school, I have had the chance to not only visit various firms in Toronto, but also speak to lawyers and students who work at many different Toronto firms. One thing that I have noticed is that culture is 100% a thing. For example, one firm I visited felt like a hockey/football locker room with all the banter flying around. Another firm felt like a tech start-up (for lack of a better analogy), with the way everyone was so casual in style and speech. What are some interesting firm cultures that you have come across? What are the weirdest? What are some of your favourites? You don't have to name the firms if you don't feel comfortable and they do not have to be Toronto firms. Let's banter!
  11. Excuse my ignorance, why does Davies always seem to be the front runner in student/associate pay? Are they the best at what they do, or are they just the richest?
  12. Once again, I should be studying. Help me procrastinate! Some of the best things I’ve seen so far are s’well water bottles, notebooks, and I think one even gave out some nice bags. Most common ones I find as of late are those laptop camera covers and the credit card holder that attaches to your phone.
  13. I’ll try to write this from (1) mobile and, (2) my perspective after just over a month at the school. To start, as I have predicted early on, the only people who truly care about the prestige of a school are applicants and those not in law school. At the end of the day it comes down to what skills you present and what you have to offer an employer. I still don’t understand why we rank schools based on OCI placements when there are SO many other areas of law that you can enter - which are outside of the formal recruit. But that’s besides the point. Returning to your question, what I love the most about this school is definitely the community. It’s a smaller school so you will be seeing the same faces around a lot. Regardless, people are friendly and genuinely want to see each other thrive. I can’t speak for other schools so I don’t know if this is the norm in law schools or not. Also the administration is SO approachable. They make an effort to know the names and faces of each and every student. They will actively walk around and strike up conversations and just make your time here a good one. There are plenty of opportunities to get involved and make your name known. We have a strong PBSC chapter, two legal aid clinics, an externship program, and plenty of volunteer opportunities. There are always talks/lectures/recruiters around the school so you it would be almost impossible to NOT make those crucial connections. The administration does a great job of bringing alumni and notable people to the school so I don’t think we are necessary missing out on anything. Honestly, there is only so much that people on the internet can tell you. If you’re interested in a school, make time to go visit and check out the building and possibly meet with faculty. I fell in love with the school the moment I stepped in. You should try it and see what happens.
  14. I looked elsewhere and the bookstore has them for a cheaper price (surprising, I know.) You can also ask upper years for their old books. There is a facebook page dedicated to it. PM me and I will send you the link!
  15. If you qualify as a mature student, I would suggest that you apply as a mature student.
  16. I heard that some rejections have gone out today by email.
  17. That eases some nerves. I was thinking I'd have to rotate between them. Thank you!
  18. This may have been already answered, I apologize in advance. I'm going into 1L and was wondering, how many suits is enough? I currently have one and just change my dress shirt and tie for every event. How many would you recommend? Should I also invest in a few sport coats/blazers?
  19. Hey again! Another post made out of boredom. Many articles and forum posts emphasize that law school doesn’t adequately prepare you for practice or life outside of law school. Well, I want to challenge that notion a bit. What DID law school prepare you for? Are there things that a legal education provided for you that you could not get anywhere else? For example, a friend of mine told me that their writing skills increased exponentially as a result. Another told me that it helped them deal with the deadlines associated with having multiple clients!
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