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  1. Well I think we've met the end of where this discussion can reasonably head, we have 2 very different ideas of what a relaxed standard looks like. The only counter I'd point towards, is even if the same non-competitive 2.7 ugpa fellow with a 149 lsat, did a grad degree IN CANADA and got an A average he'd still be not competitive for Canadian law schools. But if he got a B-B+ in a foreign law school, he'd be a shoeing for a transfer.
  2. Having just gotten into a big discussion about something similar in another thread. Your smartest move would likely be to do a JD where ever you intend to practice. Your Korean degree I doubt is a common law degree because I think Korea is a civil law country. So you may run into issues with that. Also why are you moving around so much. A Korean degree, than an American degree, now a Canadian one? I would wonder if an employer might view that as a red flag that you may not stick around long enough for them to recover their money they put into training you? Do you even have a good reason to move to Canada? Because if you have an Ivy League degree in undergrad, that carries a great degree of weight in America in terms of networking. Even if you can only get into a T-30 or t-50 school, provided your grades are good enough, those connections from the Ivy League ought to land you a better job than would be attainable in Canada with NCA exams or a foreign degree and an LLM. If I had an ivy league undergrad, was a Korean llb, I would leverage that to get clients and just stay in the states and do immigration law serving the Korean community or something like that. You'd probably make more money given the large number of Koreans who want to get out of Korea anyways. That is my 2 cents.
  3. As much as I don't think that it should be stigmatized, I am pretty sure it was back then, because one lawyer who worked for me for 4 years, was a Bond lawyer he was a very good guy and a good lawyer, but he could only get employment in his dad's firm, nowhere else would hire him. He graduated from Bond back in the late 00s. One thing I have become very suspicious of, is I've seen many grads from both UK and Australia, return to Canada, article and seemingly never work in law again. I'm not in touch with them for the reason why and many of them seem to work full time being cheerleaders of selling this study aborad sub-par schools for their old alumni school. I find it to be very strange. Why not just open your own law firm because you've articled now even if no one will hire you? Of note story, but I knew a fake lawyer who made $25,000 in a month by taking deposits from people in a fake law firm. He basically ran his own shop, took retainers/deposits from whoever wanted legal services and then he basically shut the place down and flew back to Russia.
  4. I'm not saying I know better, it may come across that way, but I don't intend it, I am simply asking questions to try to gain insight on to their line of reasoning, that is all.
  5. Some of them are bad, some of them are good, it is not all the same. They are relaxing the standards, it has been the argument of numerous posters and I agree, that these people are not competitive for law school in Canada so they go to Bond. So 1 year ago you were uncompetitive to learn law in Canada, but 4 months after your application you are now in the best school in the country, simply because you went international? Lowered bar.
  6. I don't disagree with most of what you wrote, I am simply trying to see how a field of people who claim to be rational and logical behave in a manner seemingly inconsistent with the rest of the labour market. We aren't talking some university in Russia or Pakistan where it is not accredited. We are talking world class universities whose legal programs rank better than UBC and U of T and supply lawyers to some of the top law firms in the planet in the financial capital of the world.
  7. Ok, so what would your reaction be, they did not learn Canadian law in their school.
  8. It is, because someone who is not competitive for Canadian law school, simply goes to a foriegn law school, gets a B and can transfer back despite being otherwise completely not competitive as a direct applicant. The bar is clearly lowered, even if the applicant put no additional effort. Further, many JD programs make it clear that they will typically deny Canadian applicants who would have been not competitive for direct entry.
  9. I'm not trying to misrepresent them. I didn't see any number on there on how much people went to try to get those jobs. Admittingly, I have no clue how many people from McGill even try to get to Bay or any of those other schools on there. I was simply questioning as a reasonable inference, if it is the case that substantially less people from a socially oriented school would apply than one more business focused like Western. That is why I asked the question. Presumably only people who attended these schools could have a rough idea.
  10. Feel free to pm your opinions if you don't want to derail the thread.
  11. I'm talking T-14s U of Michigan. We've seen multiple people who could not gain entrance to Canadian law schools, go to low ranking british law schools that brits don't take seriously (Leicester) then transfer back into Canadian law schools or gain entrance as NCA applicants or master applicants into Canadian schools. So actually yeah, they do relax the standard because someone who cannot even get into the lowest ranked Canadian school are coming back after 1-2 years in Leicester or Bond into U of T and other good Canadian schools. There was a poster with a mega thread on how he got in nowhere in Canada for 3 years, went to Leicester came back and did a masters at UBC.
  12. Fair enough. From your perspective of someone who hired people, where does the school within a Canadian context fall, are they ranked, like are Western gradsperfered over ottawa, or dal over vancouver, osgoode over windsor, etc.
  13. Replace Umass with some other t-14 school like Penn. As for the why bother, simple, to get the best talent.
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