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  1. 1L at UBC here. I can't compare to other law schools because this is the only one I've known but compared to undergraduate classes (also at UBC) the commitment to learning and engagement are markedly different. I'm constantly surprised and humbled at how amazing my peers are. Most of the student body are not here because they don't know what to do or could not get into another program. I would say the majority of students did not come straight from undergrad and a large portion held professional careers prior to law school.
  2. In a pandemic U of T moved to pass/fail grading across the board while UBC substantively kept its grading system. Tell me which one is more academically rigorous
  3. I read Getting to Maybe last summer before 1L and honestly wish I hadn't. It's several hours of my life I can never get back. It could be of some use when you're 3/4 of the way in the semester and starting to do practice exams but not before law school. If you really really want to read something law-related, I recommend The Inconvenient Indian which would give you a bit of critical context into the relationship of Indigenous peoples and colonial laws/institutions.
  4. I would say a strict time constraint is a great disincentive to cheating. If you're spending time in a 3-hour final to discuss issues with your friends instead of writing stuff down, you're probably wasting time. Unfortunately, strict time constraints also disadvantage folks who don't have ideal testing conditions.
  5. Can a mod close this? It's getting a bit toxic here. @erinl2?
  6. I don't think there is much difference in the Vancouver market that I'm aware of. At UBC there's the odd snark remark about TRU but I've never heard any prejudice coming from actual lawyers. It may make a difference if you're applying in provinces other than BC and Alberta.
  7. I do notice that students from a technical background (myself included) tend to feel more comfortable in courses like contracts, torts and crim while humanities students are in their element in classes like transnational and public law. I don't think the background you come from matters so much. I did my undergraduate in accounting and don't feel I'm at any disadvantage compared to a poli sci student in most courses. I say this with the assumption that most students entering law like to read and write. I can definitely imagine some of my die-hard accounting classmates struggling in law school.
  8. Some folks in that position wouldn’t describe it in that way.
  9. 50k debt is a lot to take on, especially since none of us know how the job market will be impacted in the next few years. If I were in your situation, I'd try to minimize debt as much as possible. Being pragmatic in these times is a wise decision.
  10. Employers reviewing applications in 2021: "Hmmmm... something happened last year. What was it again?" In all seriousness, I'm worried that the job market will be hit hard enough to the point where there are so few jobs available that employers can exclude a majority of a school's cohorts and choose only from schools that have proper grades.
  11. You mean 2L OCI jobs? I think it could work if all law schools have a pass/fail final but if just one school does it, I have a feeling that school's students will be disadvantaged compared to other schools who have proper grades. Just chiming in as a fellow 1L though, feel free to correct me as I have limited information on what OCIs actually entail.
  12. 1L's seem to be impacted the most as our courses are heavily finals-based and we don't have a range of law school grades to fall back on. I'm conflicted between wanting proper grades for jobs and realizing that this is not equitable for some members of our cohort. I'm not sure there's a solution that's fair for everyone.
  13. UBC is planning remote exams that will likely be graded normally, no official statement from the faculty yet. Classes have been moved online with varying degrees of success.
  14. I was in business school in 2009 during the crisis. No one was hiring. It was bad but most people eventually found jobs and ended up doing what they wanted. Maybe not right away but you're not stuck at where you start forever.
  15. Good point. It's shocking how fast things develop. Just last week we had a presentation on articling and summer positions. The careers office said it was the strongest hiring they've seen in years, and now it looks rather bleak.
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