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  1. True ! This is another route you can go ! There's more information on that process here: https://www.barreau.qc.ca/fr/ressources-avocats/tableau-ordre/permis-exercice/.
  2. Hey ! Yes, you will need a civil law degree in order to be eligible for the Québec Bar and also to attend bar school in Québec. Here is the list of steps one has to complete to become a member of the Québec bar: https://www.barreau.qc.ca/fr/ressources-avocats/devenir-avocat/. uOttawa's CDO will likely also have a lot of information on this for their LL.L and PDC students wishing to practice in Québec, so you will likely be able to find a lot of uOttawa specific information about this from them as well.
  3. Hey OP, I've been working at the Competition Bureau for the last 4 years and I'm more than happy to chat if you wanna PM me Basically, the Bureau is divided into two main sections, 1) enforcement and 2) promotion. I've worked both in enforcement (cartels, deceptive marketing practices, monopolistic practices and mergers) as well as competition promotion (policy, advocacy, international)--so depending on what your interest is, I can probably provide some insight into what you're curious about
  4. Thanks @pzabbythesecond ! Yeah, I should've definitely emailed sooner, that's definitely my bad for not planning ahead--luckily they got back to me very quickly ! For anyone else who is in a similar situation, I thought I would update the thread. I just had a very helpful call with the CDO and with that advice, and the advice from people here I will be keeping my grades. Happy to PM anyone in a similar situation if anyone just needs to chat/vent/talk through their decision. Thanks again to everyone who commented/contributed, your input was very helpful!
  5. Very true, that's a really good way of looking at it ! Thanks !
  6. Thanks for this ! Yeah, I was thinking this might be the case, but I'm glad to have it reinforced by someone else as well! I would ideally love to clerk at the Tax Court, the Fed CoA, or the QC CoA, so the B-s aren't ideal. Yeah, this is also what I had gathered. A little disappointed in those two marks, but I can't change them now I suppose, so c'est la vie--I'll just push for better marks come 2L. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if the negative inference from hiding a B- would be worse than the B- itself? But it sounds like you are both suggesting that either option is equally bad. Thanks @pzabbythesecond, I'll definitely reach out to the CDO and see if they have any insight! Yeah, I'm not particularly pleased with my marks in those two classes, but do feel a lot better knowing that a few McGill grads have been able to pull off a clerkship with some B-s. Any insight as to whether you think S/U would be better than a B- in this case?
  7. Hey everyone ! With the deadline coming up for S/U tomorrow, I'm hoping to get some advice from other law students who are either planning on applying for clerkships, or who have applied for clerkships, as I'm still on the fence about using S/U. I received good grades except for 2 B-s (which might be average or slightly below average since McGill curves to a 2.7-3 in 1L classes). So far these are the things I've been considering: Pros for S/U: Since I only just finished 1L, I still have 2.5 years of grades left and by the time I apply to clerkships my 1L grades won't be as important/relevant to my overall GPA, so the remainder of my transcript can make up for some hidden marks. Obviously hiding lower marks will boost my GPA (by quite a bit in this case) The two courses I got B-s in are fields of study that I'm not at all interested in pursuing, and will not be taking any classes in these fields in 2L, 3L or 4L, so does it matter that much if I hide them? Cons for S/U: Will it look like I'm gaming my GPA? (It most definitely will--but how bad does/will that look?) Will employers/judges think my hidden marks are lower than a B-? Since Courts see a variety of cases, and these two B-s will be the only marks I have in these two fields of study, will a judge likely frown upon me hiding them and therefore hiding any insight they might have into my grasp of this subject/field of law? (This is my biggest concern--so if anyone has any insight on this I would appreciate any advice you might have!) I think it might also be worth noting that I have (imo) a pretty strong CV and my transcript has never really been the thing that has gotten me interviews/opportunities before, it's usually been my CV/work experience that has gotten me interviews (which makes me more inclined to just keep my grades). BUT, how common is it for someone applying to a clerkship to have a few B-s? (This is my main question.) From what I've heard, usually students who get clerkships have extraordinary grades, so would it be smarter for me to hide these B-s? I realize this is probably a niche concern, but if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it !
  8. I would definitely agree with this--I do not think it would be possible at an Ontario law school without significant pre-law school savings. During my undergrad I worked 3 part-time jobs alongside a full-course load to pay for school, I also lived in Gatineau to save some extra money while going to school at uOttawa. I was very lucky to secure an amazing summer job that paid quite well from 2nd year of undergrad onwards, and of course some pretty sizeable scholarships helped a lot as well. Tuition cost was also one of the big reasons I applied to and ultimately chose McGill (in addition to the bilingual/transsystemic approach) for law school; plus the cost of living in Montréal is relatively cheap (compared to Toronto or even Ottawa, for example), although prices have definitely been going up in Montréal the past few years. I just finished 1L and so far I do not have any debt, but I'm not sure if I will be able to make it entirely through law school without debt as I did not work during 1L. I guess I'll let you know in 2 and a half years! It is also worth noting that like @whereverjustice, I had a small amount of family support during the first two years of my undergrad.
  9. My heart really goes out to all the 1Ls having to 1) start law school online and not getting to meet all their peers face-to-face, go for drinks, study together, etc. and 2) having to decide whether they move to their new cities or stay where they are. It's really not ideal, and I'm sorry you all got drawn this not so great hand. But I hope you all make the most of your circumstances ! 1L was such an amazing time for more than just meeting people, so I hope you all take advantage of the opportunities you still will have ! Zoom with your classmates (when you can) to study or just unwind with a drink after a particularly confusing torts class, attend your prof's virtual office hours (some of them are at home alone and I'm sure they'd love to hear from you!), join your school's FB groups and chat with upper years (to maybe get some pretty awesome summaries), get involved in some clubs and enjoy all the positive aspects you will still have access to ! Make the most of the situation and when classes do resume in person (whenever that is) you'll appreciate walking through the doors of the law faculty in person that much more ! And if anyone going to McGill wants to chat or has any questions, I'm more than happy to help any way I can !
  10. McGill has just followed UdeM and is also going online in the Fall. We received an email from the Dean that the Law Faculty's courses will be offered "primarily through remote delivery platforms." I guess it makes sense for these two unis to decide so early, given Montréal is (I believe) the city with the most cases of COVID in the country.
  11. I don't believe this is universally true. Even before COVID one of my final exams for 1L was meant to be online anyways, and at midterms in December I had 2 online exams. McGill has done online finals/midterms before COVID and it has not seemed to cause problems. I think it is absolutely possible to have online exams with grades. Furthermore, the summer semester at the Law Faculty is continuing remotely and will presumably also have online exams, and the Faculty has made it very clear that P/F will not apply to summer courses.
  12. From looking at it, it looks like it was either created by some admitted students or by the LSA.
  13. Hey ! Yeah there was a a FB group, it was created in March last year.
  14. Hey ! I did my undergrad at uOttawa and lived in Gatineau for 3 years of my undergrad (I spent the last year in Sandy Hill). If you can find a place in Hull that's close to les Terrasses de la Chaudière it's not that bad of a commute, there are many STO bus routes that cross the Portage bridge and drop off at Parliament (then you can take a bus--although now I believe the LRT passes by and goes to campus which might be easier). It's a MUCH cheaper way to live, but a bit sketchier than Ottawa. I would say depending on the time of day my commute was anywhere between 25 to 45 minutes (one-way) door-to-door. While I was a bit envious of friends who lived in Sandy Hill right by the campus, the money I saved in rent was definitely worth it. Plus, on days when it's nice out, the bike ride across the Alexandra bridge is a wonderful way to start your day For reference in the price difference, my all-inclusive price for a fairly large room in Gatineau was about 450$ a month, for a smaller room in Ottawa with more roommates it came out to about 750$ a month. In my last year I lived in Sandy Hill and exchanged my bus commute for a 20 minute walk. While it was nice to be closer to the uni for studying/group project meetings/work-study, I didn't experience a remarkable difference. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions! Also, regardless of where you live you will not need to change any of your documents over, so don't worry about that at all! As a student you do not change your province of residence while in school.
  15. @ThiccThanos Ahaha pas de soucis ! D'après ce que j'ai entendu, t'as raison que les étudiants de McGill sont moins préparés pour le Barreau, mais nous avons le taux de réussite le plus élevé (je croix... might need a fact check ici, mais j'ai vu ça quelque part ) Selon les étudiants en 2L, 3L et 4L dont j'ai consulté et suivant les expériences que j'ai eu dans mes cours de 1L, je croix que c'est parce que le programme à McGill est moins axer sur la maîtrise du CcQ (ce qui est le contraire à UdeM par exemple, où ils sont des experts du CcQ) et non pas une manque de cours/vocab juridique en français. Peu importe si étudier pour le Barreau va être plus difficile à cause de ma formation à McGill, l'aspect transsytémique/le JD fait en sorte que ça vaut la peine (au moins selon moi) De plus, la plupart des employeurs Québécois know that McGill is a good school, donc je pense pas que ça peut nuire tes chances !
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