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  1. Throwaway28

    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Hey guys! After neglecting the board for a month or so, I came back to find this thread still at the top of the list & thought I ought to update everyone as to what's become of me. You were all so kind with your advice and encouragement. Thank you! You're good eggs. I inexplicably managed to fall ass backwards into an associate's position at a bigger, better firm. It's in a practice group I loved but my articling firm didn't have, and it even pays better than my articling firm would've. I don't doubt a huge part of this is the hot market in Toronto, because I'm not a straight A student or at all connected or anything like that. I did all of the things you guys told me: I got letters, had people make calls on my behalf, asked around, went to every networking event I could afford, checked the TLA/ Advocates' Society/ all other job boards religiously, cold called people like it was my day job & went on what felt like a thousand coffee dates. And that shit panned out- into jobs I wouldn't have been aware of otherwise, and interviews I probably wouldn't have gotten but for the hustle. Oddly enough, though, the job I got materialized out of a cold application. I didn't know anyone at the firm, and I didn't have any intel that they were hiring new calls; I just saw on their website a posting for third year associates and figured what the hell. I have no idea what they decided they liked about my application; possibly someone else's transcripts got mixed in with the rest of my stuff. Anyways, I'd like to add just one thing to the awesome advice you guys gave me. When you're cold calling people for coffee dates, everyone says look for someone who shares something with you: hobbies, schools, whatever. That's good advice. But IMO, the best possible commonality in this situation is someone who also moved around after articling. The junior and mid level associates I found who didn't get hired back and then went elsewhere went above and beyond to help me because they shared my shitty experience and felt bad for me. They rocked. You guys rock! In conclusion: thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU!
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Yeah I've thought about this myself. I did not find a champion among the partners at my firm, but the other student definitely did. I realized that wasn't great for me, but I don't know what I could have done to change it. There just wasn't anyone that I clicked with like that. I also think I was somewhat the fire brigade, but again, it just sort of happened that way. Files I was on settled while his turned into trials one after the other. I noted the discrepancy and mentioned I wanted to help with a few if I could, but by then it was February and people were winding down and going on vacation.
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    - _ - I would have thought it was implied that I'm looking for advice from people who are or were articling students.
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Thanks guys. I can't really afford to do anything cool like write the NY bar just to do it. I don't have a lot of savings or (any) family support. This is great advice, and I'll take it.
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Thank you, this is good advice. It does feel personal, and I am pretty fucked up about it. What do you mean by 'time is on my side'?
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Thank you. I left early to go home and cry about it. I would have really appreciated hearing at the end of the day or on a Friday so it wasn't super obvious to everyone what was happening.
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    18 months! How do people survive being unemployed that long? I only have enough squirrelled away to last three months with rent and loan payments. :/ Network how? Like, go to Advocate's Society events? I'd really rather not call up everyone I know and tell them how half a dozen people I spent 10 months killing myself for decided they're just not that into me, but I guess that will wear of with a few months being unemployed...
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    Thanks BQ. That surprises me. All of my friends, across firm sizes and practice areas, heard back weeks ago and knew ahead of schedule when they would find out. I don't mean to wallow or justify feeling hard done by, but this was not the experience of the students I know. How did the students you know who didn't get hired back find interviews?
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    Omnibus topic: when you are not hired back

    I'm not getting hired back. They told me yesterday, in a pretty tactless manner. There was no heads up you're finding out X day e-mail or meeting set up; they just came by my office in the middle of the afternoon and sprung it on me with the door open while I was on hold with the clerk's office. I'm heartbroken; I really tried my best and I thought I did a good job. I never had any complaints about my work and I thought people liked me. Obviously I am also extremely bitter, both about not getting hired back and about how long they took to let me know/ what an uncouth way they went about it. I'd really, really like to tell someone off and then 'work from home' for the rest of the articling period, but I won't. I'll be graceful about it. I know the next step is to ask for letters from the people I think liked me, but after that I'm at a loss. Should I make sure I get a letter from a partner? Should I get more than one? Should I ask my letter writers if they know of anyone hiring? Should I start cold calling other firms? Other than the OR and the OBA website, where do firms advertise for associate positions? Where do public employers advertise? Should I contact one of those recruiters? How do people look for jobs after articling? When do people usually hire? How long will it take me to find something? What is the market like for fresh calls? I should say that I articled at a Bay Street lit boutique. We They also do a lot of coverage work. I would like to stay in litigation or find something in administrative or employment law.
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