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  1. It probably depends on the class that was graded P/F. I had a lot of P/F classes on my transcript bc I participated in law review, internships, etc. and no one seemed to care that there was no letter grade. If anything, they were excited about those experiences.
  2. Fellow uOttawa Student here Currently in 2L and i was successful in the Toronto recruit. I was almost in your exact same spot (re had a B+ average, networked, etc.). What can you do to prepare: research firms, go to open houses, write your resume and cover letter, do mock interviews, etc. I spent nearly 8 months working on my documents, networking, and researching and it honestly still didn't feel like enough. Personally, I found the uOttawa career centre pretty useless in regards to resume and cover letters (I got the best feedback from lawyers + law students) but their mock interviews are good. What can you do this summer? In addition to everything i listed above, i HIGHLY recommend doing SPIs. Not only do they make it so your course load is lighter during the recruit, but it also gets your foot in the door at some firms that participate in the recruit and it can help you get strong references. One of the lawyers who interviewed me bluntly told me that he called my SPI supervisor bc they are friends and he wanted to check my reference. Pretty sure that SPI directly led to my job offer.
  3. I'm also interested in entertainment and have reached out to some boutique firms in the area. Every single firm said they don't take summer/articling students. When they do hire associates later down the road, they look for students who have full-service, corporate/commercial, and/or IP experience. So If entertainment is your end goal, I suggest you focus on these areas for summer/articling positions.
  4. With such a quick turn around this year from the recruit to actually starting in May, I'm starting to work on coming up with a list of supplies that would be helpful for starting a summer position. Here's what I got so far: large purse/briefcase Notebook Pens, highlighters, pencils, etc. Leather padfolio (I know this probably isn't needed but I have one already) Planner A coffee travel mug Any other suggestions for supplies that you found useful when summering? (For context, I expect that I will be working in the office and not at home as the firm has indicated that most people are working in person currently)
  5. I got my internships by telling everyone I know (and i seriously mean everyone) that I was looking for law internships and was willing to work for free. Ended up having lots of family and friends connect me with lawyers they know in order to secure internships. It also helps that at my school, we can get course credit for internships so firms were somewhat more comfortable taking me on because they knew I was getting something out of the process even though it wasn't pay. It was also way easier to get an internship with a small law firm than it was with a big firm. For small law, I was supervised directly by the name partner, and contacted him directly to get the internship. For my big law internship, I connected with a partner who then had to get it approved by HR and then had to find a department to take me on. For context, from contacting the small firm to securing the internship less than a week had passed. For big law it took over a month. I know of some people who got internships simply from cold calling/emailing. It probably took them a lot longer than it took me because a lot of people didn't respond to their emails, but they were able to get some internships in the end.
  6. Having just completed the recruit, I can say that what you do in the summer is important. I got a lot of questions about the two internships I did at law firms last summer. But I also got a lot of questions about my experience working at summer camp and the travels i did prior to last summer. I definitely think it is some combo of the two that got me hired during the recruit, as one of the lawyers who interviewed me said that he called the firm I interned at and their opinion of me really helped with landing the interview, but bonding with people over funny camp stories is what I think sealed the deal with getting the job. All that to say is that I think what you do isn't important as long as you do SOMETHING. They just want to know that you have interests, you can work hard, and you didn't just sit around all summer. Bonus points if you do something interesting that they can ask you about or if you do something that you may be able to have in common with interviewers.
  7. Also want to add that sometimes firms know they are making an offer to someone who might reject and will call to let you know. Yesterday at 5:02 I got a call from my first choice firm saying they had extended their offers and they were waiting to hear if they would be accepted. One candidate said they would let the firm know within 30 minutes, and the recruiter said she would contact me either way. I ended up getting an offer from that firm. All that to say that some firms will let you know where you stand in the process. I know this isn't the norm and normally you have to reach out to the firm to ask where you stand if they aren't extending an offer right away, but some understand that we all expect a call right at 5 on the dot and make an effort to be transparent and communicate with candidates.
  8. do you mean if you are invited or getting the zoom link?
  9. Seriously? They said they would contact me either way???
  10. They said they would contact us either way right?
  11. nothing from Goodmans other than a follow up with my host and a couple responses to my thank you letters. My host did say that they will get back to me tonight regarding next steps so idk if that's a good sign or not
  12. If we have follow up questions that we couldn't ask over the phone, are we allowed me email recruiters? Or is this in conflict with the blackout period?
  13. If they hosted OCIs and you didn't get an OCI, then 0%. If they didn't host OCIs and you didn't get an ITC or PFO, then you have a decent shot. A lot to the firms that skip OCIs don't do ITCs and PFOs.
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