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    York Apartments

    Yes, could you elaborate on this? Looking at padmapper, for 1-bedroom apartments, there don't seem to be many options in the area that come anywhere close to the $1177/month (including furniture and internet) at Osgoode Chambers.
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    York Apartments

    I lived in OC for all three years of law school, though I graduated seven years ago. If you haven't lived in Toronto before, I do strongly recommend it, at least for first year - you don't have control over your schedule in 1L (so you'll have morning classes, and classes every weekday) so commuting is more of a pain. It gives you time to get to know the city/area so you can make a good decision about where to live in subsequent years. Your landlord is non-evil. And it's great to have your classmates as neighbours.
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    Government Legal Positions

    Yes, my impression is that generally for government lawyer salaries, municipal > provincial > federal. (Though before you look at a map and get excited about the number of municipalities, bear in mind that it is typical for small municipalities to retain law firms rather than employing in-house counsel.)
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    Under grad not completed mature student

    Very few. For example, at Osgoode: HIGHEST LEVEL OF POST-SECONDARY UPON ENTERING LAW SCHOOL Description Class of 2021 Class of 2020 Completed fewer than 2 years – – Completed 2 years with no degree – – Completed 3 years with no degree NA – Completed 3 years with a degree 5% 8% Have a 4 year degree 76% 71% Have a Master’s degree 13% 17% Phd – – Other – – Choose not to answer 3% 2%
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    Government Legal Positions

    My experience is limited to Ontario (and not criminal law), but I would say that it is quite difficult to move into government early in your career, if you articled in the private sector. Government employers have a steady stream of onboarded junior-level lawyers from their articling recruitment, so when they're recruiting it's usually for mid- or late-career lawyers. So basically, you'll want to spend several years developing expertise in an area of law that is relevant to government, and wait/hope for an opening in that area. By then, of course, it may be less appealing. For instance, a candidate well-described by this posting is probably making close to $1M in the private sector; but the salary range for this position is a maximum of ~$200K. Typical application to start date is a couple of months. Lots of applications to sort through, then interviews have to be scheduled around the availability of the interviewing panel. Public sector recruitment/hiring is highly standardized with considerable effort to avoid (some) biases, nepotism, etc. I would imagine it's the least "who you know" part of the legal profession. ETA: You can gain an advantage by talking to people who are in the government legal office where you want to work, and getting a sense of what they do. I guess that's a kind of "who you know", but it's also open to anybody - it's not difficult to track down who does X law for the government of Y, and if you reach out to them the chances of a positive response are high.
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    Online Law Degree - The University of Law (UK)

    I mean, it can't hurt to call, but I suspect that the law societies will simply urge OP to raise the question with the NCA, since it's the NCA's decision to make.
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    Online Law Degree - The University of Law (UK)

    To have your law degree recognized in Canada, you have to go through the process set out by the Federation of Law Societies of Canada's National Committee on Accreditation. Here is an excerpt from their policies:
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    Nature of the undergrad degree

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    Cheating in English Law School

    This sounds way too inefficient to be useful! You're having to flip through your statute book reading one letter at a time? And your data is only "organized" insofar as is possible by highlighting sequential letters?
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    When will law no longer be a viable career?

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    Crazy to give up Osgoode for Queens?

    Heh, and I could hardly disagree more. (Especially if you think it's possible that living in the new place could lead you to want to stay in the new place, thus increasing the size of your target job market.) If I had one regret about going to Osgoode, it's that I lost the opportunity to see and live in a new part of Canada. I don't think that requires one to look at law school as a vacation. But living in a new place is itself a learning experience and one you will take with you for the rest of your life. (This is particularly valuable if you have always lived in the same place before.) Plus, the career cost of getting that (real living) experience after law school is going to be a lot higher than the cost of getting it during law school. ETA: I do want to note that for this purpose I would consider Kingston and Toronto to be "different parts of Canada", however absurd that may seem looking at a map.
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    Looking for some legal help for a friend of mine

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    Information required

    https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/tn-nafta-professionals ETA: Also don't forget you can lose PR if you live outside of Canada for too long.
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    Without family money, can you afford to buy a home?

    I bought a home around 2 years after my Call. Not a big place, but in downtown Toronto. My spouse's income was very helpful in that. But that was four years ago. Prices have gone up a lot since then. It doesn't feel like a long time, but when I look at current listings it's clear that the experience for current buyers is going to be a lot harder than mine. (And I'm dreading the inevitable search for an additional bedroom in the next few years.)
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    Information required

    NY is a very high-paying market and a very small proportion of Ontario lawyers will emigrate to practice there. Under NAFTA, Canadian lawyers can get a three-year renewable work visa for the US. I suspect that's what many of them are doing. Most Ontario law graduates will find jobs practicing law in Ontario. Many others will go into other occupations (often law-adjacent) either by choice or because of difficulty finding a job that meets their needs/preferences. At the same time, or as two potential (but separate) options? I think it would be quite unusual for someone to practice in both of these fields.