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  1. lawstudent20202020

    Without family money, can you afford to buy a home?

    Yup, average detached house price in the Okanagan is ~650k right now which is a massive drop from what it was last year at 750k. Townhouses average 500k and condos 350-400k. It's not as bad as Toronto or Vancouver but compared to average income (in general not just lawyers) it's pretty tough to get into the market right right now.
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    Without family money, can you afford to buy a home?

    cries in BC. There is only one listing in my area in that range that isn't a time share or mobile home, and it's for a 300sqft studio in the first phase of a new development. And Im 5 hours away from Vancouver.
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    Without family money, can you afford to buy a home?

    If the actual mortgage amount is 400k its more like 2400, 2200 if you put 5% down
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    How much does a new lawyer make???

    anywhere from 0 to a lot.
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    0L's - post any questions in here

    1) On campus not really, but there's a decent about of fast food places, pubs and grocery stores walking distance from campus. There's no proper cafeteria on campus, just a couple of food counters, a pub, and the culinary program runs a cafeteria Tuesday to Friday for lunch, which has the best food on campus. 2) I know there is at least one ATM in the campus pub. 3) There is a gym on campus attached to the tournament centre, the student pass there is 27 bucks a month. You get free pool access with your student fees. 4) There's a fair amount of people that get season's passes to sun peaks. We also do a law school ski trip in January. 5) Grading curve is a B median with a max of %10 As.
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    Careers in Criminal Law

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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    @palmsa well hold on there there is a massive difference between machine learning and a DIY will kit. Also machine learning is not nearly that fair along to say it can currently replace a lawyers reasoning in all Situations. There is also a huge difference between giving legal tools into the hands of trained professionals vs the layman. I was strictly comparing a lawyers errors vs a person's errors using a DIY kit, you are arguing against something that wasnt my argument If you go into my post history you will find that I actually agree with you that machine learning will drastically alter the legal landscape without killing off the legal profession.
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    New degree and try law school or online UK LLB to NCA?

    When you ask for people for an opinion on an option you are literally asking for someone to either encourage or discourage that option
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    I was meaning wills specifically for that. Familys are terrible when someone dies. This kind of goes to an earlier point that maybe the instructions should be available directly from the government as opposed to a third party profiting off it. But you are right, I should not under estimate the human desire to have things in the quickest easiest format.
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    It has been my experience that the possibility is actually quite high and proper legal advice drastically reduces that chance, but I'd be willing to change my stance on that if I could actually see stats on this. This is kind of my point. I don't think legal zoom or other kits really add value because what the user gets from the kit they could have done without the diy kit fairly easily.
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    I'm going to disagree on those magnitude of those errors. I've seen small errors in wills lead to litigation far in excess of the value of the property. Obviously there is a market for these as by all accounts legal zoom is a profitable business, but I can't help but wonder if the people that had success with legal zoom could have arrived at the same result without it.
  12. lawstudent20202020

    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    Sounds more nuanced than we need for a thread about legal zoom.
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    No my point was that corporations understand the value of their legal services.
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    I'm thinking more government funded education like PSAs, government organizations regularly carry out educational campaigns, not all education has to be paid for directly by a person. Honestly I think there are so many self reps and legal zoom incorps because people don't recognize the value of the lawyer. There's a reason why big corporations don't give a second thought about paying their lawyers, they know it's worth it. Alot of people don't. Look at any forum for self reps or people trying not to use a lawyer and look at the attitude they have for lawyers. It's an absolute disdain of the services a lawyer provides. I'm not saying our current system is great or flawless it's far from that, but the level of service given by legal zoom is just not there. There's no real shortcut around needing a lawyer to navigate our current legal system. Personally I think maybe we should start looking at expanding publicly funded legal services more like the medical system. If people talked to a lawyer (and listened to their lawyer) from the beginning many issues wouldn't end up in court. As for those legal zoom incorps in California, I would bet money that almost all of those go bust before they get big or need to hire a lawyer to sort out the mess of the original incorporation once they get big enough that it matters.
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    Thoughts on DIY legal.

    That is assuming these products add some value. I would argue they don't add anything over just by doing it themselves. Perhaps a better solution would be guidelines available to the public where it would be reasonavle for someone to out together a basic will or other simple issue themselves. This way the simple things where everyone plays fair still work out just like they would with the online services, but the ones that go to shit, that would have gone to shit with the paid online service, don't have someone profiting off of the people that can't afford a lawyer without actually adding anything of value. In the short time I have worked in law I've just seen way to many people work themselves inescapable pits becuase they have tried to use shortcuts like this, and I just can't say that they are better than nothing because of how screwed people are when things go wrong. As a side note the types of transactions these services replace can be fairly inexpensive and I'm not sure that cost is the issue so much as people not understanding what they are actually pay for when they go to see a lawyer. One of my professors focused on access to justice in their PhD, and they have said that money is not the biggest bar to access to justice as most people instinctively think. It's actually a lack of education on what their legal rights are. One final note: maybe we need to start thinking about extending public funding to things like wills and non contentious divorces to lower income people.