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  1. I will give my perspective, which is only one of many contrasting opinions that can be given in such a situation I believe that we are shaped, to an extent, by the different environments and contexts we were surrounded by in our lives as we progress though it, and we do no service to ourselves by hiding those factors. It could be essential in helping explain what makes us "tick". In any case, I also believe in some specific cases this type of information could never really be properly hidden anyway, as is in my case. So why hide it? Now, mentioning it at perhaps inconvenient times is a different matter. I would judge it all in a context dependent manner. The following sounds simple and possibly cliché, but I do believe generally that transparency and trying our best to act in genuinely honest manner goes a long way at making our lives easier. It is simply a pragmatic choice to make. We are who we are, and our pasts and those of our families are a part of what makes us who we are ( albeit the degree to how much they make up the concept of our selves is a matter of contemplation). In the case of a personal statement, I did mention my families involvements with the law. Between my father and uncle, 2 decades were spent in prison by the two brothers. To omit that information, along with other related contextual information, would have left massive gaps in why I choose the path I did in my youth. In addition, my families past and lessons learned is a contributing factor to the ongoing development of my motivating forces in my life. Personally speaking, I think my families past can give contextual information, but I never have seen it as an excuse for my own past decisions or behaviors. I consciously decided to react the way I did to my environment, and if that was not an adaptive or good reaction, I bear the burden of that on my own shoulders. There were other ways I could have reacted, I choose a poor path, that's on me. When I wrote my statement, I was very clear about that. I wished only to be judged on my merit. I did not wish to create a sob story, in the hopes of a somewhat relaxed criteria for me to get into law school. Your situation is unknown to me, and this is just me relaying my own experience with this situation. So none of what I have said, is necessarily applicable to you. However, if there is anything here that helps you, then that's good. Please feel further to follow up in any matter in relation to this. Best of Luck with your applications and law school aspirations
  2. Is there a particular reason to assume that the waitlist is active and moving at this point? Just a heads up, orientation week is almost done, and our classes have already begun. The deadline to pay for the first part of the tuition has also passed
  3. ya, this will be the schools online platform to access course outlines, updates, grades, assignments, etc.
  4. My moodle was updated with the state and citizen course outline last I checked
  5. if you have the ability to why not? the 3 schools mentioned are all linked by via railways. You could plan something around that, if you don't want to drive. You'll get a mental picture of what you are dealing with e.g. the campus, the surrounding city, etc. to help determine where you might like going. Take friends/family, make it a road trip(s) and have fun😁
  6. I thought I would throw in my 2 cents here as well. Its a complex question. To ask yourself should you take the risk of massive debt to pay for tuition and living expenses for 3 years ( well over 150 000 for 3 years at the Toronto schools), should you take away time from the work force and thus suffer lost opportunity and lost wages, all to enter a profession with a disparity between the number of law graduates and available number of jobs in the legal profession? In addition, the future of the landscape of the legal market with the rise of artificial intelligence is also another discussion. How many, and what kind of jobs in the legal profession will be available in the future? Albeit, the latter point is something that will likely effect numerous professions and society at large. The point is, there are numerous things that should make one pause before jumping in and taking this calculated risk, no matter the age of the applicant. Then when you take into consideration the age, it does make one think of even more variables involved that might not apply to the younger applicant who is 24 years old. One has to ask themselves, when would I like to have children and start my family? Or perhaps you already have a family and need to provide in some capacity. One has to ask themselves, could age bias effect me negatively in any way in gaining employment, or the variety of opportunities' available to me? Also something to ponder, when taking a risk such as the one described at 28, the ability to maneuver into another career path yet again ( lets assume one does not like practicing) could become more restricted than if one is 23. One has to ponder the all the variables involved on a singular timeline ( wanting to purchase their first property, paying off school debt, starting a family and raising children, the stresses of law school and legal practice, the sacrifices necessary for career advancements and where one wishes to take their career etc.) and think about how everything might intersect, and how all the variables may effect one another. There is a lot to think about lol I will share a few anecdotes. I'll start of with one related to law. I had the pleasure of meeting an alumni at one of Osgoode's welcome events. This person had started their legal education at 30. Before deciding to go to law school, they were an actor. They ended up deciding to go to law school, and ended up at Osgoode. They ended up getting work positions after 1L, and it eventually led them to their current career in Law. Today, this individual has a successful career working for the government. So this anecdote can be your canary in a coal mine 😆 They battled through matters which could have been difficult to deal with while going through law school e.g. starting a family, but they did persevere and they did manage to get through it successfully. They seem to have a career they enjoy, I can estimate they are earning a very good salary ( by my ideals), they have a great family life, it seems to have turned out well. Of course, this is one anecdote. We would definitely be able to find others in contrast to the one given. However, this is here to help show you that hope can exist at the end of that tunnel lol. I had two other professors of mine while doing my undergrad. Both started their bachelors around 23 and their PhD's at 27, and got tenure track positions in their mid 30s. Their decision to jump into science was arguably a much more risky proposition than entering into law, given the current status of the job market in academia. However, they had a passion for what they did, and they wanted to go for it. They faced obstacles, but they persevered and shattered them and kept moving. They knew there was risk if they went down that road, but they thought to themselves it was worth it. My last anecdote, I had met the director of one of the Md-PHD programs at a Canadian medical school by sheer chance. I was picking up cell lines, the lab happened to be that of the directors. Upon finding this out, I asked for some of their time to ask questions as I was a prospective applicant for the upcoming cycle. They were kind enough to grant me that time. As I voiced my concerns of going down that road due to my age etc., I was surprised to hear that they entered medical school at 28. They had a career in engineering before that, but they did not enjoy it. So they went to medical school through the MD-PhD stream, as they had an interest in both the scientific and clinical aspect of medicine. They finished their education around 40. Looking back now with an established Lab and clinical duties in the hospital, they informed me they were content in their decision. They love their job, take satisfaction from their work, and are proud of the accomplishments they made. By no means was it easy, it was a difficult journey. They are not swimming in the lapses of luxury, but they are financially stable and do something they truly love. They knew the risks, calculated the different variables, and they went for it. It turned out well. These are just 4 positive anecdotes of people who embarked on their path to their career later in life, and of how it worked out well in the end. There will be many stories where the situation might have not turned out so ideally. However, these 4 situations at least let us know in the back of our mind it is at least possible. This can be a powerful thing in times of difficulty and doubt. I asked myself these very questions, and continuously have more run though my head. I am 28, went through this cycle and have accepted an offer of admission from Osgoode. I am extremely happy, proud, and humbled to have even made it to this point. Given my background when younger, it was highly unlikely. However, I do not know where this path may take me. I do not know if this will be a worthwhile risk, only time will be able to show. I made a calculated move when deciding to apply to law school. I had finished a summer internship at UHN, and due to talking to some of the post docs ( luckily my lab was all post docs, some of whom were very helpful to me in giving me valuable insight and advise) , my own changing personal situation, and other factors, after the internship completed I decided to not try and shoot for the MD-PhD route. I had known for a long time I did not want to go into some of the other professions eg veterinary, dentistry, optometry etc., for a variety of reasons. I did have an affinity towards medicine or law, again for a multitude of reasons ( some being personal). With both options being attractive to me, I decided to put my resource and very limited time ( all this was decided with weeks before the deadlines for applying to both professional schools) towards applying to law school. I did that for many reasons, including higher odds of getting to a given law school versus a given medical school program ( thus not having to spend more valuable time applying through multiple cycles of admission), the duration of time to complete the education, the ability to stay in Toronto for family reasons, the timing of admissions and the writing of the MCAT/LSAT, etc. I wrote the LSAT, waited and waited, and now that chapter is all done with and I await to see how the next chapter turns out. I can empathize with a lot of your concerns. I understand the job market prospects, and I understand the potentially difficult lifestyle that could come with the work. I understand the magnitude of some of the sacrifices that might arise on my path, and some of those sacrifices having to be made by those around me as well. There will be foreseeable and unforeseeable obstacles in my path, and I do not seeing this being easy. However, I have now committed to this journey and will do everything that is within my power to make the most of it. With that said, whatever happens will happen and I must mentally be able to be content with the eventual outcome. For me, the risk was worth it due to the allure and possibility of attaining the outcome(s) of the different potential paths that this decision could yield. I guess you have to estimate and ponder all this as well. Good luck in any case!
  7. So true, there is a clear difference between graduating law students and the amount of jobs in the legal profession that already exists. The question I ask myself is, would the creation of new schools just make that worse? True, talent would win, but I doubt any of us want to see the situation spiral into something akin to the Hunger Games ( albeit I am a firm believer in meritocracy, I do believe it is complex and more than just talent involved eg a little luck, if you happen to be on game day on interview day, contacts, the state of the economy at that given time, timing, etc), I would think we would wish to improve the current situation at hand, rather than allow it to get worse. I also agree this is not really a concern for Ryerson. Why should they care? They would be benefiting regardless, they want that tuition money lol. In addition, if they have a law school, that would also raise the profile of the entire school and potentially attract more undergraduate students. Thus, it is a good business decision on their part. I agree, the regulating bodies should at least ponder these concerns before allowing more schools to open ( perhaps they do, likely they would). You're right, it probably does happen every day. I can also see how the potential exists for a student to gun for big law, and assuming they get it, regret the situation as you mentioned. My point was more about the broader effects, more so than what pertains to that given students satisfaction with the job. If more schools open up like Lakehead or TRU, under the notion that these graduates are going to be helping service the surrounding areas which are in desperate need for legal services, then if students attend under false pretenses and just leave the area after graduating and go to Toronto to get Big Law jobs, I do not see how the intent of opening the schools is being fulfilled at all. What I can see potentially happening is an ever further worsening of the current disparity between law graduates and prospects within the legal field. With the increasing tuition costs, and the heavier and heavier debt load students are taking, it is somewhat concerning ( Allan Hutchinson was mentioning this in his book, and I was chuckling albeit somewhat nervously because his concern was addressed to when the tuition prices were almost 33% cheaper than what they are today, I wonder what an updated book would say). Of course, we should apply and attend at our own risk. No one forces us to do so, and I do think we as law students, lawyers, etc. are somewhat privileged. However, I do hope something would happen to improve the situation of supply and demand of legal professionals and their services. We cannot necessarily do much to control the demand side, but we potentially could effect the supply side.
  8. But would these new schools actually end up improving access to justice for the communities that might need them the most? Honest question I've been pondering recently, or is possible that the opening of these schools further exacerbates the issues of large percentages of graduates not having jobs available to them as lawyers ( I was reading the Law School Book by Allan Hutchinson, and it briefly went into the reality of employment prospects facing the legal community , which I knew beforehand and had researched before applying, but I suppose after the recent articling recruit and reading the book I have begun to ponder this situation once again) I also ponder the possibility that schools that open up with the intent of producing lawyers to help provide legal services in regions that have less access to them such as TRU, or schools with a social justice focus such as Windsor, in actuality end up being places where students apply simply for the purposes of wanting to get into a Canadian law school and later pursue the more lucrative big law jobs ( not necessarily saying there is anything wrong with this). Students could hypothetically engage in minor deception on their personal statements and declared intent of why they wish to practice law, say they wish to engage in social justice jobs in underserviced areas, and then just go and gun for the more lucrative positions after they get in. These hypothetical students would potentially have no intent on adhering to the goals of the school. Rather, you just get more people nationally who end up gunning for big law in the larger metropolitan city areas. Would opening more law schools really help solve the issue of access to justice in the areas that actually need them, or contribute to the issue of job shortages/underemployment that seem to be afflicting the legal community? I then also start to think about the future, we do not yet know how the rise of artificial intelligence may effect our service industry. Do we want to make it easier for people to get into law school, and thus increasing future competition for law graduates in the actual work force? These are not rhetorical questions, but things I actually search answers for
  9. Well in any case your comfortably above the minimums. I did not know that about the transferring process with UBC, I couldn't find anywherementioned on their websites. But in any case, even if it does turn out to to be important, it seems like you're doing well in that area. I never thought transferring was a big deal. I transferred from York to U of T and it was a fairly simple process for me. I hope the same for you. Ya , Sauders might be competitive. It also depends on how many applications. People transfer to York all the time, but to transfer into Schulich at York would appear to be a more difficult endeavor. Just do summer school to make up the extra course(s), hopefully it only ends up being 6 credits and that's only one summer course full length, it wont be bad at all In any case, good luck with the transfer and future law school aspirations!
  10. You have a 75% right? How's your last 30, it could likely be higher? UBC Sauders Bachelors in commerce requires a minimum 65% in last 30, plus same minimum in the few required courses. more details here http://www.sauder.ubc.ca/Programs/Bachelor_of_Commerce/Admission_Requirements/Transfer_to_Year_2 That's a comfortable 10% higher than the minimums, I would definitely not count myself out ( but of course, no guarantees with all this, no harm in looking into it and trying though) I'm a little surprised on a side note, does UBC not offer a BBA or any other type of business degree other than the BCom? I don't think EC's matter at all for undergrad transfer tbh. I transferred from York after 1st year, I don't even remember them asking me for EC's. Just my York transcripts. Honestly, transferring between undergrads is not a big deal. If you don't end up at least getting into the BA stream at UBC, ill be a little surprised. Go to UBC over Capilano. I cant think of any good reasons as to why the reverse would be better
  11. Transferring between undergrads generally does not require a super high gpa ( although your grades are decent). The ubc website said a minimum of a 60 average. https://you.ubc.ca/applying-ubc/university-college-transfer/#eligible You're sitting around a B I believe, which is great, I think in Canada generally a B will allow transference between any post secondary institutions ( since you have more than 30 credits, as per the site, UBC will use your most recent 30 credits to calculate your gpa, how is the last 30?) Couldn't you just do the 6 credits in summer? How many courses is that, it seems your schools use the 120 credit system versus the 20 credit system I had, so that's like one full year course right? But ya you have to take a look at how they would transfer your courses ( how the program prerequisites work out etc), maybe call them to find out more on this part I agree with your last point. Get the business degree ( if we go with the logic of having a decent fall back option, then I HIGHLY recommend transferring to UBC over the other school, also if you have grad school aspirations. UBC is one of the most reputed schools in the world, which will be a big plus for you compared to this other school). I'm a little confused, why would you be able to transfer into the arts stream but not the business stream at ubc? Ya Fall 2018 transfer might be difficult ( can you transfer for sept 2018 for the other school?). Have you called to see maybe if its still possible? I would try and call, you never know. Your grades look good enough for transferring as of right now, and honestly everything aside ( grade curving, etc.) I think a transfer to UBC from SFU also has other benefits for you
  12. Ok so lets put aside my own example in this cycle for a second. I have a question. What do you think about just transferring to UBC for the remainder of your undergrad?
  13. https://www.sfu.ca/students/calendar/2016/spring/fees-and-regulations/admission/grading-systems-and-policies.html#standard-grade it seems to be a typical grading scale, am I missing something? @FunkyFin
  14. U of T is a powerhouse when it comes to science The downtown campus is connected directly into the entire UHN network. We are talking about world leading hospitals. PMH has clinical trials and innovative research programs e.g. the tumor immunotherapy program, that are at the forefront of fighting cancer, only a few places in the world are doing what they are doing at the same scale eg john Hopkins, Harvard, etc. If I recall correctly, PMH is one of the most cited cancer hospitals in the world. Then you have Mount Sinai, Sick Kids, MARs, etc. U of T medical science departments are also massive, when I was very seriously thinking of doing a MD-PhD I remember looking into this. McGill and UBC don't even come close to the vast infrastructure or departmental sizes as U of T. Having UHN allows U of T to attract world leading scientists and clinicians to join the community. It is truly a great place to do scientific research, plus everything else in general, amazing law school, amazing medical school, their undergrad programs, etc
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