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  1. @msk2012 I think this is up your alley.
  2. Oh dear lord, no. Don't apply to both offices while expressing to one office that they are your second choice haha. I'm not saying this as a "this is what the recruiter said" (you don't even know the name of the firm that has this policy or if other firms follow the same protocol), but as general recruitment advice. I'm sure we all have our preferences prior to OCIs + in-firms, but things change and I wouldn't want to imply in my cover letter that I am less inclined towards a certain office, when I'm very open to various possibilities and would be grateful for the opportunity in any event. They mentioned something about bringing this up during interviews. In any event, it seemed like it was something that they have to figure out on their end.
  3. A recruiter from one firm said that they ask students to clarify which office is their preference before removing the applications for the other offices (the rationale is that they don't want their offices competing against each other - not because it is a response to a "red flag" that a student is giving off). Which is interesting, because I then wonder why the firm you mentioned would funnel their applicants to their Toronto office as a default.
  4. Who told you that it can have a negative impact? It may be firm dependent, but recruiters and partners from various firms have told me that they understand the reality that many students find themselves in, how competitive recruitment is, and that many students are genuinely willing to make a move to a new city if it means gaining meaningful work experience. Edit: To be clear, you still need to communicate that you are willing to stay in whatever office will hire you for some time, but I wouldn't let this deter you from applying to multiple markets if you can see yourself practicing in those cities.
  5. Cases I find interesting are: Re A (Conjoined Twins) Conjoined twins will die if surgery is not performed. If surgery is performed, one twin will die. Parents did not want the hospital to perform the surgery. Hospital thought otherwise. Should the surgery be performed? M v H The wrongful conviction of Sally Clark
  6. What is your opinion on submitting a proposed list of upper year courses when it was not specified/mandatory to do so? I noticed that some firms did not ask for them, but I figured it would not hurt to send them in anyways. Now I am second-guessing my decision and doing everything by the book for the other half of my applications. I would love to know your thoughts.
  7. Also a lost 2L here and I would also like to know what other people think. Personally, I am applying to 30ish firms for the Toronto recruit. Unlike you though, I don't think I am being particularly picky. Once I decided that I was not particularly interested in government nor interested in working in an ultra-specialized boutique, that limited things to a reasonable number of firms - at least that's how I feel.
  8. Will 100% agree with this as this has been my personal experience. I found that keeping the introduction light is a great way to set a nice, casual tone at the start of an interview. Reading the CDO materials, I felt like I had to "pitch" something deeply unique and substantial in my "tell us about yourself" answer. But it felt overly formal to me and it was so easy to come off rehearsed during my practice interviews. It's hard coming off light while trying to touch on key points that you want the employer to take away! Personally, I am a naturally jocular person. So instead, I changed my approach going into interviews. I treated the "tell us about yourself" as a little icebreaker where I spoke very briefly about my educational background, but then shared a unique fact about myself and finished off with what I thought was a quirky and innocent joke. To me, this felt the most natural. I know a point of the interview is to communicate certain key points about myself, but interviewers should also realize that good questions yield good answers. If the interviewer wanted a more substantive answer, then they had 15+ more minutes to ask more substantive questions than "can you tell us about yourself?".
  9. I second this. Specifically, my shoddy guess is: Fall 2021 being in-person at 0% and Winter 2022 being in-person at 99% (fight me). I personally don't mind zoom classes. I just feel like my youth is wasting away at home, but thingscouldbeworsesoIguessitsnotreallythat bad.
  10. IMO, anyone should still be able to at least budget their time and prepare application materials. OCIs + in-firms are no doubt a distraction, but forgoing the opportunity to apply is a pretty big thing. Also, did Queen's do pass/fail last (academic) year? If not, what were your 1L grades, OP?
  11. Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky Will it (passively) improve reading comprehension? I hope so. At the very least, I think it's worth a shot. Is it about law school? No. Does the title describe the law school experience? Yes. (Kidding aside, while I am not sure if the RC component is something someone can "study" for, I still appreciate your question because I also increased my pastime reading while studying for the LSAT with the thought of "eh, what's there to lose?". Personally, I read literary classics - like Crime and Punishment - because I enjoyed reading them and figured that reading classics engaged an appropriate level of reading comprehension. Furthermore, I also recommended Crime and Punishment because it made me think about certain aspects of criminal punishment prior to law school - which isn't related to the law school experience, but may nonetheless be interesting to someone who wants to study the law. All the best!) EDIT: Oh! I just remembered. Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance may interest you. I haven't read it, but know of the book through the Netflix adaptation. While I am assuming the central focus of the book is poverty in America, the book should also touch on the author's law school experience.
  12. The amount of law school studying I do follows crests and throughs. Outside of exam season, law school is not very stressful - I am not reading 8-12 hours a day. However, during exam season, I definitely work harder than I had in undergrad. I won't quantify how much I study during exams, but it is definitely stressful and requires a lot of effort. Final essays are also another big source of stress and late nights. IMO, while law school can be very intellectually engaging, it can also be really boring. This is generalizing, but I think learning the law (i.e. a lot of law school) is not as "fun" as actually applying, analyzing, and debating the law. But that's my take.
  13. This is obvious, but I will share just in case you missed it: did you check your school's online job board for non-OCI jobs? I've seen a couple of non-OCIs job postings on my school's job board. Some of them even have deadlines that have passed. They are sort of easy to miss because the job board is flooded with OCI-related jobs. All the best in the upcoming recruit!
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