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  1. Off topic, but I told a non-law school friend about OCIs and how much emphasis is placed on "fit" in the formal recruits. They then commented on how cliquey legal practice must be and I was like, "huh, maybe you've got a point." All this to say that cliques are unavoidable and it is what it is.
  2. ECs do not really make a difference. As long as you have hobbies and/or substantive things to talk about during your OCIs + in-firms (such as prior work experience - which you have), ECs (or lack thereof) will not be the reason why you strike out or land a job. Though if you are personally interested by an EC, you should still do it because it can be a talking point during interviews in addition to enhancing your law school experience.
  3. Glad to read that I did not come off smarmy. I believe 2L OCIs will be held around the same time as the 1L recruit (so next sem).
  4. 2L recruits for Ontario and Vancouver have been pushed back due to COVID so this is unlikely (Alberta recruit is done though). Do not mean to be a "smart Alek", but just wanted to point this information out just in case you want to edit anything. Edit: From my perspective as a 2L, getting specific classes this semester has been a gong show due to COVID-related reasons. Furthermore, I think some students genuinely give themselves tunnel vision.
  5. I'm curious, why do you research if a firm only laterally hires from equally sized firms vs. hires from smaller firms?
  6. I admit it was just a thought, but I think it depends on how you phrase it and how well you can incorporate it in your cover letter. Family law has some really interesting topics, which I've been introduced to through my own readings. I made an assumption about why OP is interested in family law, but if they are interested in family law because of the subject matter, I don't see why they can't demonstrate this interest while also referring to some specific examples. But it may just be me.
  7. Two points: Firstly, I think the size of the firms you are interested in do not matter as much as the type of firms you are interested in. When people say "Big Law", it's really just short-hand for full-service, corporate law firm. But I'm just being picky. What's more important is my second point: Secondly, if you want to demonstrate interest in family law yet have no experience in family law, I recommend reading books about family law and talking to family lawyers (in addition to doing the obvious like taking relevant courses and ECs). Talking to lawyers establishes connections in the field, while also educating you on what practice is like because they will inevitably "spill the tea" on the realities of practice. Reading books about family also gives you material to talk about with lawyers (or even give you material to write in your cover letter) and, if you are really keen on family law, is just an overall nice way to spend time haha.
  8. I don't know if Big Law associates will recommend starting at Big Law if you ultimately want to do family, but I have been told by family lawyers that I should consider starting out at a corporate firm. I'm not saying that there is a unanimous sentiment amongst family lawyers as to where to start. But I do feel like it might be helpful to share what I've been told. One big law lawyer turned family practitioner said their experience helped give them exposure to areas of law that serves them well in their high net worth divorce practice, whereas one said that they just pushed paper their entire time and didn't get the substantive experience their family law peers were getting. Of course there are other variables at play, like the mentorship opportunities at wherever firm you end up in, how certain you are that you want to pass up on Big Law for family (which has it's own drawbacks) when it is feasible to start in Big Law and end in family (contrary to the sentiments in this thread by those in criminal law, family lawyers seem to be more open to those who start out in a corporate practice), and what kind of family law practice you want to pursue (I'm just a law student, but I can't see how Big Law experience would help in a child protection case, for example).
  9. Adding on to the above, forcing yourself to write the optional essay will lead you to further reflect and you may end up sharing something in your optional essay that you may not have shared otherwise. Happened to me.
  10. Interesting, I don't know why I assumed their LSAT score would be 170+, but that's stats for you. Is 91% like a transcript with nothing lower than an A?
  11. Looks better! That outlier in the first group, what were their stats? And do you know if they ended up going to UBC? Also, I suspect that the outlier on the second group may be a discretionary applicant, but like you said, there really is no way of knowing 100% just based on their stats alone. This is still pretty cool though and I'm glad you shared it.
  12. I like it! I think marking the average scores of each group (and maybe linking these average) would be a neat addition. I think a boxplot version of this would also be cool as well since that is usually how this sort of data is represented.
  13. That's good to hear. I feel like I have to clarify that Calgary ain't all that bad haha (though I still think you are making the right choice). I still want to emphasize the importance of doing your own due diligence and talking to lawyers yourself, especially when you want to find out about people's personal takes on the more touchy subjects around law (e.g. diversity). As mentioned before, I've spoken with Calgary associates and had discussions about diversity in the profession and suspect (just want to make it clear that this is just speculation) that these lawyers were more candid about their experiences with me because I disclosed that I'm a visible minority, whereas they would have just sugarcoated their experiences otherwise for fear of offending/sounding whiny. That being said, it's also important to recognize that everyone has different and unique experiences and I don't want to imply that being a minority automatically means you'll have a negative experience or that you will not land a Calgary big law job. All the best!
  14. Adding on, Calgary's legal scene is less racially diverse than Toronto and Vancouver. This might be something you would want to consider, @Aschenbach Also, a few Calgary lawyers I've spoken with have not recommended Calgary and urged me to consider staying in Toronto instead. Calgary has things going for it, but I think before you apply to the Calgary recruit, you should do more due diligence.
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