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  1. Mediation is relevant to all areas of law. At least when I was in law school, the moots were highly sought out by students and drew a lot of attention in interviews for litigation jobs. I don't think that they are necessary to get a litigation job and I would agree that clinic experience overall is probably more valuable, but I also wouldn't discount moots. OP: there are negotiation, arbitration and mediation moots as well as litigation ones.
  2. I am someone who also always had an interest in both policy and public law, so I understand where you are coming from. I think you need to ask yourself what exactly you want to spend your days doing. A policy analyst does very different work than a constitutional, criminal, immigration or international lawyer, and what each of those does is very different. I have seen it written on this forum many times, but it bears repeating that you are unlikely to have a career in public international law straight out of law school. You can certainly work in criminal or immigration law, with constitutional law being part of both of those fields. I practice in both areas and deal with constitutional issues frequently. If you do immigration law, you could either be essentially a solicitor doing paperwork for sponsorships, work permits and the like, or you could be a litigator representing refugees at various hearings. If you do criminal law, you will be spending most of your time in court, and if you develop an appellate practice, as I have, you will be doing a fair bit of research and writing as well and delving into those constitutional issues more deeply. Policy analysts obviously do not go to court. They deal with the bigger picture as it applies hypothetically to numerous people, while a lawyer represents the interests of their individual clients. I was recently encouraged to apply for a relatively high-level policy job that I would have jumped at a few years ago, and I declined to do so because I really like being in the courtroom and dealing with people in extremity, and I think that that is where my strengths lie and where I can make the most impact. That is the question you need to answer for yourself. As well, the day-to-day life of a criminal or refugee lawyer is not glamorous, and you will likely be self-employed and needing some business skills if you work on the defence side, rather than having the structure and benefits of a government job in policy, so you need to ask yourself what kind of employment structure you would thrive in. Of course, you can work for the Crown in those areas and have the best of both worlds, if you would be comfortable arguing their side of the issues.
  3. When you say T20, I am going to assume we are talking the lower end of that, as in T18, 19, 20 - UCLA, USC, Vanderbilt and so on, and not HYS, Chicago, Columbia and so on. Your GPA is weak for a lot of the Ontario schools, and I would imagine that you are not top of their lists, so no, I would not email or call them and "ask them to hurry it up." You could politely ask when they anticipate making a decision. Also, do you intend to practice in California or in Ontario? If you want to practice in ON, I would not go to a T17 US law school.
  4. I think it is too soon to be desperate. That was my question, and this is the downside of cold-calling people who haven't said they are seeking a student and may not have experience supervising a student. I have not heard of this being standard but it may be different in other markets. I'm another vote against doing this. They can't assess your performance in 1 week, and does the law society even let them do this? The bold is a bit of an overstatement. They are never ideal, and often can be exploitative, but there are situations where they are mutually beneficial and the best option some students have.
  5. It's always a challenge, to greater or lesser degree, to try to work where you are not going to school. I had every intention of working in a different city, and as a naive law student had no idea of what was involved, so I ended up staying in the same city as my law school, not really by choice, assuming I could just move later, which has yet to happen. If circumstances lead to you not being able to study in your hometown but wanting/needing to return, it is not impossible, and may of my classmates did this, but if you have the choice, study as close to where you want to work as possible. Do not study somewhere assuming you can just move later, and do not go to school somewhere because it's a cool locale you just want to experience for a while but in which you do not want to settle down.
  6. I agree with these two points, and I would say that emotional intelligence is actually more about recognizing how you feel and why you feel that way, and then processing and managing that emotion, and also recognizing the feelings of others and knowing how to deal with them. Emotional intelligence is not trying to force yourself to feel that something upsetting you is not a big deal. I also agree that not having ECs, and listing 5 areas of law as being your interests, shows that you were perhaps hoping to overly rely and coast on your grades and your science degree for IP, and that you haven't really engaged with these so-called interests. Even working while going to school and getting good grades, you could and should have done an EC or two, because it was something you loved and just couldn't pass up. A would-be litigator will be so excited to moot, for example. So, you need to figure out what you really want to do out of health law, IP, employment law etc and then find things to do to further that interest and make it apparent to others.
  7. I found Property to be the most convoluted class in law school. I also found that it was one of those classes where forming a study group really helped. Each person contributed the little bit they understood to the discussion and all our little bits became a while. I don't remember the Ziff text helping, but thankfully the professor did when I went to see them in office hours or emailed them with questions. I generally did not like using the outlines of upper years students, but Property was an exception.
  8. I went to law school with a bodybuilder who maintained and even improved his physique. He wasn't a top student, but as far as I know, he did fine, and got a job in a medium-sized firm where he still is.
  9. The best factum I ever wrote was on an issue I didn't care for and with which I did not agree. This is very true. I also enjoyed the law school classes that took me out of my comfort zone a bit, and probably learned the most in them.
  10. I have a friend who transferred from U of T to Osgoode, about 10 years ago, who left U of T because they found it too conservative and found Osgoode much more left-friendly, so their views align with this as well, for what it's worth.
  11. 1) Got signed off for a few weeks by my doctor due to severe morning sickness and other issues and then had my hours restricted, and when I was back, basically did nothing but work and go home and sleep - called on my tribe to do everything else. 2) Due to #1, they knew pretty much right away. 3) Didn't take a long leave, and worked part-time/from home as soon as I could. In a perfect world, I wouldn't work and raise kids at the same time at all but given that it's not a perfect world, I am fine with the way it was.
  12. I did that about 2 years in. (Not in tax, though.) I think for certain people it is fine. It was for me. You need strong experience prior to going out on your own, through your time prior to law school, law school, articling and your first job, some business ability, and some measure of talent/skill in your area/s of practice, but most of all, humility and the ability to figure out what you don't know and the matters you are and are not competent to handle, as well as really good, capable mentors you can bounce things off or work on cases with. Some people can thrive in their own practice after 2 years while others will crash and burn - I've seen both.
  13. That is true. 2 years' legal experience is still very junior. A 2-year call with strong academics will be looked at as having potential but certainly not as senior counsel, no matter how smart they are.
  14. 8th in the class at a Canadian school is objectively impressive. What was her class rank after transferring, out of curiosity?
  15. LOL, are there any "hard" courses by 3L? I think it's better to take courses relevant to your eventual area of practice than to take stuff you're not interested in just to try to game the system.
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