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  1. https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawstudentjobs/ Might be a better place to advertise for associate hires. There's alot more activity going on there.
  2. You sound like me, also B student, with a mix of As and Cs thrown in the mix. Didn't really apply broadly but when I do I am barely getting responses. Market is tough right now for us latecomers.
  3. Same. This year is just extra brutal because of COVID job cancellations.
  4. Yeah. Pandemic has had pretty severe behavioral consequences that we haven't fully grappled with. Humans are creatures of habit, and a full on year of non-stop ennui and stress will have people become more stress avoidant and produce gradual behavioral shifts that we do not notice. Feeling un-motivated is pretty much a product of overwhelmed chronic stress, its never a personal fault if you are blaming yourself imo.
  5. Purpose of legal education is because a bunch of people decided it would be a good idea to restrict the supply of lawyers and create a mandatory 3 year requirement for a law degree. Realistically it can be done in maybe 2 years, probably even less. Sure, you want people who are trained to represent people, but by and large the profession exists as a guild where we want to maintain control of service supply. The method of legal education has not changed from prehistoric times, although there are exceptions. It almost entirely is centered around an outdated approach of having people memorize case laws and applying it to situations and learning through a one-directional lecture format that emphasizes memorization. Lots of criticism with law school education models exist, and its growing given that law school has not adjusted to nearly 2 decades of technological changes and industry changes that other professions have. I would go with trying to apply the Delta Competency Model. Every industry is undergoing significant tech changes, and law as a is pretty quiet because it could very well end the cost monopoly lots of law firms have. Delta Competency Models is designed to address the flaws and inculcate different skills that align with the 21st century economy. See Here: https://www.legalexecutiveinstitute.com/white-paper-delta-model/
  6. >Articling Student, Not Regular Student Nevermind. disregard all that I said.
  7. Good and bad. I had a really shit time with my school admin for personal reasons, but my school is known for generally having poor student-admin relations. Some profs I had were great, some were not so versed in teaching especially when they offload teaching to a partner at some local law firm. Lot of the student body and many professors are fantastic people, and you meet lots of people who can be inspirational, like the ones who overcame adversity or ones championing great causes or have unique perspectives on issues. With that said, I think law school teaching methods is generally outdated, the field and many people thinks of themselves too highly, too much emphasis on a flawed hierarchical system, and lot of high-rank people have remarkably poor social skills. I've seen practicing lawyers go from conversation tone to screaming in the same sentence, or part-time teaching staff openly insulting student's appearances. Its awkward to view adults behave this way, anywhere else they get shit-canned or disciplined or excluded. Its no surprise lawyers generally have among the poorest emotional intelligence for a business centered around relationships. This is not the universal rule, social culture varies widely but generally this pattern seems common. Think there is a fundamental organizing problem, first is that there is a problem with teaching people how to deal with stress which there is no shortage of, and second is that schools and many legal departments and firms encourage competition between colleagues. This kind of social environment only really fosters distrust, paranoia and social distance, while the stress creates negative coping responses. E.g. lot of the egotism in this field is a stress cope response driven by people feeling socially vulnerable or threatened by their atmosphere.
  8. Working as an RA is not prohibited even if its a weird arrangement with a lawyer to do research for them. Working in a legal capacity is quite different IMO and I knew people who did this part time type of work for attorneys in law school.
  9. You should check out this program run by UVic. Its a shared articling program where you get rotated to different firms/groups. I'm in the same boat as you although I enjoy the constitutional dimension. I assume you were exposed to the GHG case? There's just going to be more of these types of cases and litigation on the subject; many with different angles. For example there's another case called La Rose v Canada which is a private action brought on by kids against the government, and its going to the Federal Court of Appeals. Anyways here's the link to the program. https://elc.uvic.ca/programs/articling/ Interesting that you brought this up. In the US, prosecutors do not have discretion because of fiduciary obligations under something called the public trust doctrine. State AGs must bring action on the people's behalf if citizens are petitioning for it. It leads to pretty interesting situations where you have GOP governors being forced to bring action for causes they completely oppose. E.g. the Gulf Oil Spill saw southern 'business-friendly' states sue BP, against the wishes of their state governors. We are a little behind, but we probably will be getting there given how prominent environmental law is becoming due to the ecological crisis. I'm always met with old-timers in the field who are pretty skeptical or dismissive of the political gravity of the ecological situation generally, including within environmental law itself. But its a simple matter of time until it becomes the only issue that matters and where everything has to square up with the environmental movement.
  10. Knew a compliance specialist at a place I use to work at. They do very different work; and lot of their work requires understanding automated compliance systems if you want to do a closely regulated industry like the banking/financial sector. The guy had a business degree and was very knowledgeable but I don't think you needed legal knowledge necessarily.
  11. Yeah. Different state of mind then, and re-reading it the tone reflects a moment of self-loathing. Felt the need to vent last week, all part of the natural cycle of catharsis we need in our lives. Usually I don't linger in that state of mind and take to mind a very good advice I learned a long time ago, to always have a side hustle so you can keep going forward. The debt burden wouldn't be much, research LLMs are not that bad in tuition, but for now I'll try to navigate it one step at a time. Both. Policy side I am also interested in. Just that the avenues don't exist yet in this field.
  12. all of these are fairly normal feelings. eventually these things become second nature and at most you become a withered emotional husk from the stress, but one that is very capable of processing legal arguments. jking aside, public law is a different beast for some because its more policy oriented. i usually just read the textbooks since it explains philosophical concepts well. my year a former attorney general taught us, and who was more into telling stories than teaching.
  13. honestly I'm not being sarcastic. just wanted to inject some fun into the otherwise incredibly mundane world of business law. i'd recommend you become a criminal defense attorney if you want to have fun. afterall nobody makes movies about any kind of corporate lawyer but they do make lots of defense lawyer movies. in my opinion its also the field of law where you meet the most colorful personalities since you are a true underdog within the system. yes, true. experience though does go a long way and alot of firms seem to value business degrees since most of them can already read accounting statements and have basic knowledge of their industry. imo this type of casework in financial law can also be much more boring, especially OSC/securities law type stuff I'd imagine. just endless piling on of forms and disclosure reviews. still think working in a hedge fund, i'd doubt you'd be able to count the number of law students with that bracket checked off and lots of firms would want someone with that level of insight.
  14. Do you have a degree in finance? there's counsels working for banks who don't do the big law articling route if you wanted to work in house anyways and want to work in the financial sector.
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