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  1. Reminder that, for those who qualify, the CESB application is now open!
  2. I know some folks who lateraled over to London after becoming an associate at a Toronto firm but I don't know of anyone who actually went straight to the law firms in London after graduating from UofT. The licensing process in the UK takes three years after graduating law school (because their legal education is a 3-year undergraduate program). You have to complete the Legal Practice Course, which takes one full-time year or two part-time years, then do two years of traineeship (like articling) before you are called as a solicitor. Getting a trainee contract is fiercely competitive, from what I've heard. That, plus I'm not certain that a Canadian JD is recognized in the UK for the LPC, so you might have to do a one-year GDL conversion course before the LPC. That's at least additional three years after law school before you're a lawyer. The easier path is to just get called here in Ontario and then lateral over after via the QTLS. You have the work experience that the British law firms are looking for and a much easier licensing path.
  3. It sounds like there's quite a bit of interest in a Canadian version of Chambers Associate (https://www.chambers-associate.com/home), which I found immensely helpful when I was going through recruiting. It goes through everything that people are asking about firms, like "The Work", "Pro Bono", "Culture", "Hours and Compensation", etc. They even cover the OCI interview process, the in-firm interview process, and the summer program (e.g. rotational, free-market system, central assignment system). They explicitly reject quantitatively ranking the firms for recruiting. "When finding the right career for you, there is a lot more at stake than just perceived prestige. Chambers Associate reviews firms on a qualitative basis. We also draw on Chambers USA, our vast annual directory of US law firms based on client reviews." Maybe we can reach out to their head editor, Antony Cooke, to get a lawstudents.ca project started?
  4. Don't know about the other schools, but 27 or 28 students (or about 13% of the class) landed NY from UofT this year, plus 3 others who are splitting Toronto/NY with the NY firms in Toronto. There were five NY law firms that did OCIs at UofT, whereas I believe Osgoode had two. Numbers are here, but a bit off from mine because I'm aware of some students at the firms who declined to respond and the self-reported numbers: http://ultravires.ca/2019/09/new-york-summer-2020-recruit-results/. I also echo @Prospero that it's almost impossible to get a 1L NY position from UofT, but throw your hat in the ringer and see where it lands!
  5. Good advice, I'm going to drink diet coke at every dinner and reception I attend to weed myself out of the firms that I don't want to be working at.
  6. Breathe. It's been literally 2 business days since the OCIs. I know for a fact that many big law firms have yet to have sent anything out to anybody (e.g. McCarthys). ITCs will be coming in all through until call day, and like others have stated, there will still be many avenues of employment once this formal 2L recruit madness is over with. It ain't over until the fat lady sings. You have a great career ahead of you.
  7. I spent a whole chunk of my 1L summer working on the legal side of climate finance/clean tech VC/ESG-factor integration and you can PM me if you want to chat a bit about it. I talked about it a good deal in most of my 2L OCI/in-firm interviews and tagged it as an interest, but I didn't really tailor or target that specific area of law because I don't think the full-service firms are really looking for students/first-year associates to hit such a niche practice. From my understanding going through the recruiting process, they're looking to see if you're more interested in corporate vs. litigation, and then within those two for you to be as general as possible. From a firm perspective, I think they want to hire people that they know won't be bored if they have to staff you on an M&A deal or project financing deal and not your niche interest. Also, consider that Canada in particular is the world leader in metals, mining and energy, perhaps the opposite of clean tech and climate finance. That's a huge practice for a lot of the big law firms and while not mutually exclusive, they probably want to know that you are willing to work in that field. From a student perspective, I want as wide a breadth of experience as I can get so that I know the ins and outs of different types of legal transactions (assuming you're considering corporate and not litigation) and gain good legal knowledge and experience before targeting more niche areas later on in my career. If you're only targeting this specific field, you won't have work - there probably aren't enough clean tech VC or climate financing deals in Canada to keep you busy.
  8. Fellow UofT student here - I don't think there's anything you can do to bump up your position, nor would I think an email of interest would help. Let it play out, I know a few people who accepted NY offers very recently and will be withdrawing from the Toronto recruit, so you can expect to see some movement.
  9. ITC Davies, UofT. Got it last Thursday, Aug 29.
  10. Confirmed, with firms that have raised listed here: http://ultravires.ca/2019/07/mccarthy-tetrault-raises-articling-pay-to-1900-per-week/ McCarthy raised to $1,900.
  11. Literally nobody in this thread has shamed or guilt-tripped or even apologized for anyone's successes. If merely saying that some people have it better than others gives you a clear indication of "far-left political correctness," then perhaps those insults aren't necessarily so unfounded.
  12. I don't mean to derail this conversation any more, but "work your ass off" means very different things for those who come from an extremely financially stable background vs. those who don't. It's a lot easier to "get into university, maintain a high GPA, pass the LSAT, get into law school, maintain good grades in law school, kill articling interviews, work yourself to the grindstone during articling, pass the bar" when you don't have to worry about financial burdens. utmguy is not guilty - he/she is just recognizing that he/she had it better than other people. No need to lambaste someone acknowledging that.
  13. The NY firms only actively recruit at: McGill (5-10 students per year) Osgoode (5-10 students per year) UofT (20-25 students per year, top ~30% of the class) Maybe UBC? So it'll be a long shot from Calgary, but hey you could throw your hat in the ring for the external resume drops and see what comes out of it. However, yes, I agree with @pzabbythesecond, you need to do more research on this. I have not seen any Califiornia firms on the OCI resume collect, although for some reason there's a Houston office of a V25 in there. Cooley (HQ in Cali) is part of the OCI collect but it's for their NY office. Canadian JD's can't practice law in California right out of law school so it'd be strange that they are recruiting from Canada (but then again, same goes for Texas).
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