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  1. AnonLaw

    Would BigLaw firms care if...

    Don't try to deep six somebody's career. If it's sexy pictures keep them to yourself. If it's something else, also keep it to yourself. Tattling on another lawyer in order to try and get that person fired is never smart. It's a small world and you might hurt your own career more than this person's career if you actively tried to get somebody fired. Wasn't there something like this in the news a few years back? As I recall the firm owner canned the tattler and deleted the photos without looking at them.
  2. Don't go into family thinking that you'll get to go home early. I do family litigation and regularly get home at 11 PM. People who do solicitor work have much more regular schedules and can usually go home at five. Think somebody who does conveyances, contracts and wills for a living. Also definitely pursue a hobby.
  3. AnonLaw

    Still no articling job.

    Basically at this point you'll do anything as long as you get articles, right? If you're in Ontario do the LPP. If you can't get a job as a called lawyer you can take on some work until you find a job as long as you stick to what you know or files that you can learn on the fly.
  4. Go to U Vic if you want a good school that costs a lot less than U of T. With that LSAT and GPA you are likely going to get in in the first round of admissions. I got in on a 167 and a GPA around 4.
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    Going solo three years out

    Legal aid is only really good if you need to get money in the door. They certainly pay, but they pay very poorly and cap your hours. How small of a community are you in? In some areas of the country (northern BC, for example) there is a bona fide lack of notaries and lawyers. So you can charge a decent price even for simple wills. Likewise you might be able to earn something better than "not a lot" on conveyancing and other solicitor work. If you're doing litigation you can probably bang out things like simple contracts and promissory notes, since the principles are the same as settlement agreements. You'd be surprised how cheaply you can live if you want to even if you have a dependent wife and children. $50,000 a year after rent (so $65,000) is obviously not Bay Street but I don't think that should be counted as a minimum. A minimum would probably be $25,000 including rent, utilities, car and food. You should incorporate if you are on your own. Oodles of ways to reduce taxes.
  6. AnonLaw

    Family Law

    I'm a male and I have male and female clients. Maybe 60% males. There's a lot of "yes, but that's the rules" type advice given to both men and women.
  7. AnonLaw

    Should I write the optional essay?

    Best to err on the side of always writing it. It is a small time commitment relative to having to wait a year because Admissions bounced you because of no essay. You can always just write the same essay for every school you apply to since they all have the same requirements (pages, word count, etc) anyway.
  8. AnonLaw

    New LSO logo

    Could they go back to the old name? LSUC was so much better of a name.
  9. AnonLaw

    Rural lawyering pay

    If you don't drive you'll need a license and a car to practice in small towns. Especially if you do litigation, since while you might count on there being a provincial court, it won't sit very often, and you're not necessarily going to have a superior or federal court or any kind of tribunal nearby. If you do wills and conveyances only then you're fine, same if you do only provincial court offences/criminal work. If you earn $50K in a small town you're earning the equivalent of $70,000 in Toronto after taxes. Rent is way cheaper. Food is often cheaper. Housing is immeasurably cheaper. Most services do not cost more though if you are very remote internet service might be poor. There will be extra car and gas costs but only if you don't otherwise drive. You'll likely have a short commute either because of no traffic or because you live within a couple blocks of the office. I could be hard to get a practice going, though. Maybe best to find a job with somebody there and then take over their practice. A lot of the lawyers outside of cities are older and looking to retire or semi-retire. And its always good to have an old-timer to bounce ideas off of.
  10. AnonLaw

    UVic vs UBC

    UVic is cheaper and gets similar outcomes for grads as UBC, though note that the Island has very poor pay for junior lawyers. Think $40,000 or less for a 1st year call. Go to UVic, then get a job either in downtown Victoria or somewhere in the lower mainland. Tuition is cheap and not having a lot of student debt on graduation means you could take one of those low pay jobs if you didn't find something better. Until you're a 5-year lawyer its not that easy to get a quality law job. I'm told the following by UVic grads: * Much easier to get into a moot. UVic can't fill seats (compare to my law school where there were 3 students to each 1 seat) * The quality of instruction is decent. * Easy to have short commute * Good if you want to work for the province, though that really depends on the government. * The co-ops are very useful. * Don't talk politics while you're there.
  11. AnonLaw

    First trial tips?

    You're a student so the judge will cut you some slack, but small claims judges can be incredibly harsh on students and lawyers. They cant yell at law litigants so any frustration falls on the lawyer. Don't forget the rule of Browne and Dunn and don't get cowed by an impatient judge. Small claims judges interfere much more frequently than superior court judges. If they tell you to move on and you're putting your story to the witness, don't move on. They will remember you didn't put it to the witness but will forget that they told you not to even ask the question that was asked. Always bring written argument and prepare your written argument before evidence.
  12. AnonLaw

    Is TRU a reputable Law School

    I've also litigated against TRU grads and they certainly aren't slouches. If you exclude the well-connected and/or children of partners/judges who are guaranteed summer and articling jobs either at their parents' firm or somewhere else, the hiring rate at U of T through the recruit rounds is not actually that good. All law schools in Canada produce the same quality grads. There is no school that produces better outcomes for people who are not well-connected. The only time name value might get you more mileage is getting an interview at the OCIs to begin with. Hiring from the OCIs depends most on personality (ie "fit") because firms consider all law school students good enough to do the legal work. They want somebody they can go to the hockey game with in addition to drafting pleadings and doing research.
  13. AnonLaw

    Rural lawyering pay

    Not to be overly negative but many firms even in Vancouver pay a lot worse than $72K. A lot of small town firms pay a lot worse than $72K. If you're a 1st year call the priority is to get a job. Don't hold out for that one firm in Vernon who pays $72K when there's some other guy willing to hire you for $60K. The pay on Vancouver Island is so low that most firms would show you the door if you quoted $60K.
  14. AnonLaw

    Is TRU a reputable Law School

    I've met several TRU grads who have jobs as lawyers downtown or in good firms. If it helps lots of us who went to a certain very expensive Ontario law school didn't get jobs through the OCIs either.
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    Idle curiosity, but what's the popular summaries going around nowadays? Back in my day it was Kier's notes, which was apparently cobbled together from other students' notes all the way back into the 1990s. Is it still his stuff?