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  1. AnonLaw

    Family Law

    I'm a male and I have male and female clients. Maybe 60% males. There's a lot of "yes, but that's the rules" type advice given to both men and women.
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    Should I write the optional essay?

    Best to err on the side of always writing it. It is a small time commitment relative to having to wait a year because Admissions bounced you because of no essay. You can always just write the same essay for every school you apply to since they all have the same requirements (pages, word count, etc) anyway.
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    New LSO logo

    Could they go back to the old name? LSUC was so much better of a name.
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    Rural lawyering pay

    If you don't drive you'll need a license and a car to practice in small towns. Especially if you do litigation, since while you might count on there being a provincial court, it won't sit very often, and you're not necessarily going to have a superior or federal court or any kind of tribunal nearby. If you do wills and conveyances only then you're fine, same if you do only provincial court offences/criminal work. If you earn $50K in a small town you're earning the equivalent of $70,000 in Toronto after taxes. Rent is way cheaper. Food is often cheaper. Housing is immeasurably cheaper. Most services do not cost more though if you are very remote internet service might be poor. There will be extra car and gas costs but only if you don't otherwise drive. You'll likely have a short commute either because of no traffic or because you live within a couple blocks of the office. I could be hard to get a practice going, though. Maybe best to find a job with somebody there and then take over their practice. A lot of the lawyers outside of cities are older and looking to retire or semi-retire. And its always good to have an old-timer to bounce ideas off of.
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    UVic vs UBC

    UVic is cheaper and gets similar outcomes for grads as UBC, though note that the Island has very poor pay for junior lawyers. Think $40,000 or less for a 1st year call. Go to UVic, then get a job either in downtown Victoria or somewhere in the lower mainland. Tuition is cheap and not having a lot of student debt on graduation means you could take one of those low pay jobs if you didn't find something better. Until you're a 5-year lawyer its not that easy to get a quality law job. I'm told the following by UVic grads: * Much easier to get into a moot. UVic can't fill seats (compare to my law school where there were 3 students to each 1 seat) * The quality of instruction is decent. * Easy to have short commute * Good if you want to work for the province, though that really depends on the government. * The co-ops are very useful. * Don't talk politics while you're there.
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    First trial tips?

    You're a student so the judge will cut you some slack, but small claims judges can be incredibly harsh on students and lawyers. They cant yell at law litigants so any frustration falls on the lawyer. Don't forget the rule of Browne and Dunn and don't get cowed by an impatient judge. Small claims judges interfere much more frequently than superior court judges. If they tell you to move on and you're putting your story to the witness, don't move on. They will remember you didn't put it to the witness but will forget that they told you not to even ask the question that was asked. Always bring written argument and prepare your written argument before evidence.
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    Is TRU a reputable Law School

    I've also litigated against TRU grads and they certainly aren't slouches. If you exclude the well-connected and/or children of partners/judges who are guaranteed summer and articling jobs either at their parents' firm or somewhere else, the hiring rate at U of T through the recruit rounds is not actually that good. All law schools in Canada produce the same quality grads. There is no school that produces better outcomes for people who are not well-connected. The only time name value might get you more mileage is getting an interview at the OCIs to begin with. Hiring from the OCIs depends most on personality (ie "fit") because firms consider all law school students good enough to do the legal work. They want somebody they can go to the hockey game with in addition to drafting pleadings and doing research.
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    Rural lawyering pay

    Not to be overly negative but many firms even in Vancouver pay a lot worse than $72K. A lot of small town firms pay a lot worse than $72K. If you're a 1st year call the priority is to get a job. Don't hold out for that one firm in Vernon who pays $72K when there's some other guy willing to hire you for $60K. The pay on Vancouver Island is so low that most firms would show you the door if you quoted $60K.
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    Is TRU a reputable Law School

    I've met several TRU grads who have jobs as lawyers downtown or in good firms. If it helps lots of us who went to a certain very expensive Ontario law school didn't get jobs through the OCIs either.
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    Summaries

    Idle curiosity, but what's the popular summaries going around nowadays? Back in my day it was Kier's notes, which was apparently cobbled together from other students' notes all the way back into the 1990s. Is it still his stuff?
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    Professors?

    It's theoretically possible to fail a course but you have to have an epic fail to do so. Something as bad as not answering half of your exam. In many cases the prof doesn't matter. Even if they hate you for not laughing at one of their jokes or something, its anonymous marking. They can't deep six your mark for some sort of unfair reason. If you are worried about marks you should study how to write a law school exam. Papers are like undergrad papers but more work. Exams are like an advice memo to a theoretical client usually on somewhat ridiculous facts. A small few profs at U of T gave other types of exams but those were the two main ones. Do practice exams and practice old exams. Do the readings and make a summary. Get your hands on whatever the current "best summary" is and then adapt it to your needs depending on whatever prof you have. They don't all teach the same thing by a long shot. In 2L you have more of a choice, so if you just don't like a prof you can avoid that prof. Most popular courses have some choice in terms of profs. In 1L you have zero choice so you shouldn't even bother looking up reviews. Btw, people complain all the time about profs. It seems like a pastime for straight-A students (all of us) to complain about teachers. Take all complaints with a giant grain of salt. For example, people used to complain constantly about Dubber, but he's the best prof ever. Aside from being a smart cookie he actually tries to make ultra boring theoretical stuff actually interesting. I remember pro wrestling references being made in ultra boring SCC criminal decisions. I would have been put to sleep without those.
  12. Actually in BC the PLTC materials are often adopted wholesale from the CLE. Not as detailed but also not exactly outdated for the most part. Some materials are not 100% accurate but its things like the explanation of the levels of court and there will be a statement such as, "there are two superior trial courts in BC, the Federal Court and the BC Supreme Court", which has been incorrect for decades. Generally experience is by far the best way to get into an area. Best to work for somebody in the beginning but if you started up on your own and were willing to put in the time you could start from a given area cold using smaller files essentially as training. You just can't fully bill on that because nobody is going to want to pay you $20,000 for a tax case involving $10,000 of tax.
  13. You guys might all want to keep in mind that a four year call is definitely not guaranteed an income that high. Many lawyers I know at that level make much less than that, or they are on a commission basis, or self employed. If you want something like my budget in Vancouver, I'm not posting my income, but I save money mostly through still living like I did in law school. Rent: $1600 for a one bedroom + den outside of downtown. (now considered 'cheap' because rents have gone up a lot recently) Utilities: $100-$200 per month plus (phone, internet, electricity) Food: A bit more than Toronto but not that much more. Restaurant meals are about the same. Car: $350 on a lease for a Honda. Gas is about $50 per month now because I moved close enough to work to walk to work. Bar fees: $3000/year Fun: $200 or so a month. I have cheap hobbies. Holidays: I'll tell you when I go on one. Oh also it looks like she doesn't have that job anymore. She's off her firm's website and the LSBC has her address as some random residential address. So she either got sick of law (completely fair and understandable) or she's in between jobs and perhaps not going to be able to have $6K a month after taxes available anymore. Some luxuries, like the monthly wine tours, may need to be sacrificed.
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    low-150 lsat am I done for?

    You could certainly try if you have the right factors. Skimmed your post and your personal statement might resonate with some admissions people. You also should try schools other than U of T though. Maybe TRU, Victoria, the Prairie province schools, and the outside-Toronto schools? The LSAT isn't really determinative of whether you are going to suceed as a lawyer but some schools might be concerned that you went through the whole LSAT process three times and scored 150 three times. You can study this exam like anything else. It is not by any means a complete gamble. Other than a handful of geniuses most people who score well have to treat the exam like a final exam after a class, but the class is either self-taught or, perhaps, you take one of the many courses available. In my case I got a 152 in my first write without studying and on the second time I got 168 (or 169, I forget) after a half year of studying. I got into U of T with that number. You should try taking a course on the exam, get a big stack of old exams and the powerscore books (by FAR the best books even if they are expensive). Start now and then study every week until you can ace the test. It's July now. Its probably not enough time to write in September. Try in December? You may want to see if the LSAT company will let you rewrite. There's some kind of cap on rewrites in a certain period.
  15. They specifically offered to assume the government loans. It was in a letter that came in long after I was done articling, around the time the line of credit would turn into a formal loan. It had language to the effect of "we will assume your Canada Student Loans so you can get the lower interest rate". When I got in touch with the advisor she said despite the letter I would have to apply for it. A while later she said sorry, you were rejected. I was also told I could get a business line of credit on terms not a lot worse than the student line of credit. When the advisor got back to me she quoted terms significantly worse than my credit card in terms of interest, monthly fees, etc. I actually did what you said and maxed out the student line of credit to pay off the government loan because at that point I had a job and it was no longer going to be interest free. Had to also put a bunch of my savings into the government loan to fully pay it off, though. Much later (around the end of last year) Scotia started charging me monthly account fees even though they promised if I stuck with the same account it wouldn't have minimum account or monthly fees. The advisor once again ignored me and the branch wouldn't refund the charges so I changed banks. The account they give you is pretty no-frills (no interest, no charges). Other than refusing to give me a cashier's cheque after promising to do so they weren't terrible during law school. I wouldn't recommend using them as your main bank, because their advisors clearly don't view law students and junior lawyers as valuable clients and routinely make promises the bank is not willing to honor. That being said, borrowing from them for the student line of credit was fairly painless, just don't use them for anything else.
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