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  1. We had two kids during law school. Though I like to think I wasn't absent from my kids' lives during law school, I can say with confidence that I am far less of a household staple now. Maybe I couldn't interact with my kids as much as I would have liked to, but things were a bit easier for my family and for myself knowing I was just in the next room with headphones on (I still laugh thinking about my 1 year old bursting into the room randomly with a massive smile on his face, just coming in to look for me or give me something). I tried the whole 9-5 thing, where you just put your head down and work your arse off from 9am to 5pm, monday to friday. Well... that approach didn't work so well, especially in first year where classes go all day (at least at my uni they did). First year was definitely the toughest. In second year, I often found that I would go hard 9-4, take a break for dinner and family time, then back at it from 8-11. On weekends I would go from 9am to 3pm (immediately after nap time), then take the rest of the day off for family time. It's a tough grind, but definitely doable. I was a full time student and my wife was full time employed.
  2. For me.... Best: learning; having the time to learn and immerse yourself in the topic; freedom and flexibility in my schedule; having someone to ask questions and generally not feeling stupid or inadequate for asking; not having to wear a suit; skipping if I felt like it; safety net; having credit to burn; Worst: being so close to being a lawyer and yet so far! Doing poorly on a test and not knowing how to correct your mistakes (mostly in 1L); despite freedom and flexibility, always feeling like I have no free time (whereas after work, my brain leaves it all at the office); compromising on your class choices; having to study things you could care less about (granted, I quite enjoyed almost all of the mandatory classes after 1L so maybe this should be a plus instead of a minus); having credit to burn;
  3. 1. Yes I think that was true for my classes in 2014 through 2017; it was always the PC students who had to ask for help; 2. I can't even imagine a $1700 windows laptop... that thing I could do some serious gaming on!! 3. My wife was still using a very old handmedown mac long after I blew through a desktop and 2 laptops! But yeah, wouldn't want to have to play EVE on that thing!
  4. Lots of folks around here have done a great deal of things during law school and articling. I myself have two kids, both of which were born during my schooling. While you should strive to focus your attention on articling, that doesn't mean you can't do other things. As well, from my experience, planning a wedding is not that much work. We had our wedding in a different city, and even then, it didn't take up that much extra time. Lists help a great deal; know what you need to plan and when you need to plan it. Honestly, you'll be fine
  5. Sorry what? Summer courses = bad?? I did full terms in the summer to complete my undergrad in 3 instead of 4 years. From my experience, summer courses were significantly harder because some of those courses were 3 week courses; others were over 2 months. Work load was typically the same as regular courses (1-2 papers with mid term and final). Not sure how or why summer courses would be considered somehow easier or less valuable than regular courses...
  6. They really pound it into your head that you need to have summer jobs in law in order to be successful. This is really unfortunate because it's simply not true. I had worse grades than you do in 1L and did not have a law-related summer job, and I had no problem securing articles and becoming a lawyer. You will be just fine. Take the summer to enjoy your second last or last summer not doing law-related things, because for the rest of your life, you won't get another summer away from the law.
  7. So many different reactions... Oftentimes, if you're looking to make a conversation awkward, mention that you're a lawyer/law student. Top three reactions: 1. "Oh cool" and then awkward silence. 2. "I have this friend who's a lawyer. Do you know [insert name]? He lives on the other side of the country." After I admit that I unfortunately do not know [insert name], awkward silence. 3. Awkward silence. Also, worth honourable mentions: 4. "Oh yeah, I was going to go to law school but [insert reason]." Awkward silence. 5. "I'm pre-law right now." After explaining to me that they're not actually pre-law because that doesn't exist, awkward silence. A lot of people awkwardly mention how smart I must be for having completed law school, to which I usually feel the need to correct them (self-deprecation gets me through the day!). One thing you might find is, when you want to engage in a meaningful discussion with someone who has a viewpoint different than yours, oftentimes that person will just think you're being an annoying lawyer and will use it as a way to shut down the conversation, sometimes mockingly saying "oh ok lawyer I guess we're all just wrong then." It's incredibly frustrating because I don't feel it's innate in my personality to argue; I just want to have a conversation. Of course, pointing out that they are using a blatant fallacy to shut down the conversation often does not help matters. You also often get legal questions, or stories of experiences with other lawyers or with the law. The legal questions suck because you can't help the person with the question, which of course often leads to awkward silence.
  8. I used an HP during my undergrad, then bought another for law school ($700 gets you about 4 years). I'm more familiar with windows, so it was nicer for me. Had I bought a Macbook, I wouldn't have known how to use it, and wouldn't have wanted to take the time to figure it out with everything else going on. On that note, if you're more comfortable with a PC, go with that; if you're more comfortable with a Mac, go with that. I saw a healthy mix in class, but I would say there were more Apples than PCs; just an observation. Couldn't tell you why that was. I think, ultimately, it boils down to just general preferences; I don't think there's any particular considerations for law and law school. My biggest factors were cost and comfort, so I went with the HP laptop with the bigger screen.
  9. That's how my parents ended up without a house! Those were rough times alright...
  10. Assuming a bank would give my wife and I a mortgage despite my student debt, there's no way we will be able to afford monthly payments on a $600k home, which is about the lower end of the average here. I estimate we are 5 years out from affording those payments, as a first year call now, though that is me being optimistic that my income will be high enough to bridge the gap between our very low rent now (living with family) and the $3000-$4000 potential mortgage payment. Also optimistic that housing prices do not begin to rise again. Also optimistic that we will be able to save up a downpayment in that time. So yeah, I'm of the opinion that family money is almost a necessity to be able to afford to buy a house (not just talking professionals here, but everyone!)
  11. If memory serves me correctly, there are 5 year long courses, each with a mid-term help/not hurt exam, but one of those courses will have a moot which messes up the help/not hurt for that course (Property, Contracts, Criminal, Constitution and Torts). Then there are 2 half year courses, one taken from Sept to Dec and one from Jan to Apr, each with a final exam (one on legislation/government in the first half and one on legal perspectives/theory in the second half). Then there is one other course; can't remember the details of it, but I don't believe there was a final exam for it; it ends in November for the first term and March in the second term. Then, of course, there is block week. In 2014 block week was only in January, so of course there seems to be some changes to the schedule. Of course, this could all have changed since then.
  12. I'm in BC so things work a little different. But looking forward to being called! It's been a long journey for us all. Congrats everyone!
  13. I just read King of Torts by Grisham, where the protagonist lawyer did some insider trading, and I thought to myself, "probably a good idea to avoid trading stocks."
  14. I would say a few things here which don't answer your questions I'm afraid. The first is this: law school exams vary from class to class, prof to prof and school to school. A property exam at U of T will look a lot different from a criminal exam at UBC. A perpetuities question on your first year property exam (do you have perpetuities in Ontario still??) will consist of a fact pattern with several questions, each modifying the facts slightly, each question requiring you to determine if the facts violate the rule (at least that's how it was on my first year exam). The criminal exam will have a huge fact pattern and you get to be the judge (again, that's how my first year exam was); are they guilty or not guilty, and if so, what is an appropriate sentence (and of course, always explain why)? But again, so too did that property exam have a fact pattern where you were the judge: is it a fixture or chattel (you all know wtf I'm talking about now ). It varies. Second, I would have to say that the amount of time you put in reading may not correlate to higher grades. It's not that the grader is simply coming up with their arbitrary number; it's that you have to have a certain way of thinking going into law school (hence the LSAT) and reading every case that deals with the Charter will not help you on the exam. It is important to know what you're reading, how to read it, and how to apply what you've read. In law school, I read more than most in my first year class, and had below average first year grades. Some of the best students were out partying practically every night (though the opposite was also true, with some of the best students reading more than I ever did or could) but it just goes to show that reading and time studying does not necessarily correlate to highest grades. Rest assured, however, the grading system is fair. Students are graded via number, not name, so profs have no idea whose exam they are marking (again, at my law school this is how it worked). Not to discourage you, but law school is tough, and it doesn't matter which exams you prefer; you will get a mix of all types. Multiple choice... not so much. But again, depends on the class, prof and school. I had probably a couple of multi-choice questions on 3 of my first year end of year exams; one exam had two massive fact patterns and 3 hours to answer the question. It's just a mixed bag. But, as someone else has mentioned, most profs had a rubric from which they based their marks. You needed to hit certain points, or provide a comprehensive answer, or provide good reasoning, or cite certain cases, etc etc. Some profs gave you their rubric (ones which contained no specifics) and some profs did not. Some profs had two rubrics, some had none. The first thing you learn in law school is that "it depends," and this is certainly true for how exams were structured. Sorry for the rant; hope that helps.
  15. I grew up poor. Before going to school, I worked semi-skilled labour out of high school and for many years. I then had 7 years of no/very little income while I did my undergrad and then law degree. As a first year call in a few weeks, I will be happy with my income. It's not as much as I had hoped for, granted, but it will be more money than I've ever earned in my life, and should be sufficient to keep the student creditors at bay. Going forward, I'm not sure what my earning potential is in my chosen area of law. However, I think I will earn enough that, by retirement, I will have a comfortable lifestyle. So yeah, I am happy with my income.
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