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Yabbie

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  1. For what it’s worth and it’s not much, I’ve taken my name off the UofA waitlist.
  2. No, I received positive feedback on my statement from exactly the right people. There is quite a bit of complexity in the admissions process: I know practicing lawyers who don't know that UofT and Osgoode are different schools, for example. I wouldn't have possibly known that Windsor Dual has easier entrance standards, unless I was previously advised. The other alternative is spend hours on this site, which I did anyway, but most people have lives. My recommendation? Shell out a few hundred bucks if you can afford it. Law School is a massive investment anyway, and it doesn't hurt to have a slight edge.
  3. I had a 3.2 and a 162. I received an offer from TRU, and a waitlist from UofA. The consultant I used helped me craft killer a statement that brought out my best characteristics. I also learned which schools I would have a shot at, how and when to follow up with admissions, and explaining certain discrepancies etc that admissions looks at. Was it worth roughly 300 dollars? Absolutely.
  4. I had a consultant review my applications and resume and give me application strategies. I dont think I would have gotten in without it.
  5. You will get automatic admit at UofA. You've got a great chance at other schools too.
  6. I think thats applications per seat. That's somewhat misleading because many applicants send out 7+ applications, then there are more offers than seats etc. Id be interested in knowing how many applicants applied to law school in Canada this year, compared to seats in Canadian law schools. That will give a rough idea as to how competitive the cycle was.
  7. Out of curiosity sake, what is the total applicants to seats ratio for Canadian law schools across the board? Something like 1 seat for every 3 applicants Im assuming?
  8. Please include Western schools. Us Westerners don't appreciate Ontario-centrism(in politics or law school stats)
  9. Yup, its probably way harder for an average windsor applicant with 3.5/160 to get in than for an average Uoft applicant 3.9 and 167 to get into UofT. Just because the applicant pool is so much smaller in the latter. Higher Entrance Stats=More Selective may just be a commonly held fallacy.
  10. Basing the information off this. At the same time, it seems UofA had a less than competitive season- with people with far lower stats getting in. I can see TRU(or windsor or sask) having more applicants than UofT. These schools accept people with 3.3 and 156 kind of stats. If you accept that stats are curved, these kind of applications are probably a standard deviation away from the 3.9/167 applications you see at UofT. The less competitive schools probably receive more applications because there are exponentially more applicants with a realistic chance at those schools.
  11. Been following this board closely and it seems like its been an interesting cycle. With the information they received, does anyone care to comment on how competitive the cycle was at their respective schools? I heard TRU has 3200 applicants for 150 spots, which was unprecedented.
  12. Now I know the whole "prestige" and stigma thing about foreign schools has been beaten to death. For most Canadian students, most of the time, a Canadian Law School is the way to go. However, suppose you wanted to work with big foreign players, do international M&A deals, perhaps do international criminal cases or something along those lines. In these cases, would it not be better to go to an Internationally reputable school?For instance, suppose you wanted to specialize in helping Chinese companies takeover Canadian resource firms. I'd imagine having a Law Degree from the University of Hong Kong, with a working familiarity of Commonwealth and Chinese legal systems, might be advantageous. Similarly, if you wanted to do major international human rights work, a degree from Kings College London may open up doors to work at the International Criminal Court, which is experience you can later bring back to Canada. I would imagine that the only Canadian schools that would offer equivalent opportunities in these fields would be UBC or UofT. . I would imagine that if you wanted to work in a more globalized setting, it might be worth going abroad rather than going to a regionally focused Canadian school. Thoughts?
  13. Arguably it was this very fact why Ryerson even chose to open up a law school. They know they can get smart students to pay a handsome fee to attend whatever hole in the wall program they create.(Doesnt mean they will, but they can). Its like building another casino in Vegas. Is it a needed facility or targeting an underserved population? No, but its probably something more like "If we build it, they will come"
  14. Moms, married, and otherwise mature students who are done with the dorm life for one. Students lacking resources who can stay at home are another. Ethnic minorities who feel uncomfortable in Kingston or Thunder Bay(yes its a thing). Small town universities tend to be white and twenty-something. Many students who don't thrive in that environment would stay their level best to stay in T-Dot. Ryerson's other professional schools like Business and Engineering are pretty competitive, and thats more to do with the demand for staying in Toronto than any particular love for Ryerson. After all, a Canadian Law Degree is a Law Degree-another Toronto school would be in demand from the get-go.
  15. You could argue that the GTA is basically a province within itself. There are a lot of students in the GTA for whom leaving the region is a major inconvenience. There are Toronto students at Queens and Western who feel they are uncomfortably far from home and have culture shock(I've seen this...) Toronto has a population equivalent to BC and also has two law schools with the "highest law admission standards in the country". Ryerson will probably have loads of those who just missed out on UofT or Osgoode, and who may have had offers from the other Ontario schools. TRU benefited from strong Vancouver students who chose it over the UofA for example. That being said, there are probably vastly more strong UofT/Osgoode rejects who would chose Ryerson over Queens/Western in order to stay in the city.
  16. Has anyone gotten in off the waitlist yet?
  17. Take it with a grain of salt. I'm just interested in having conversations, not actually fretting. Does the central institution matter? Probably. If Princeton opened a law school tomorrow it would be top 15 in the US( Im aware of the Can/US differences), whereas if VIU or University of Brandon opened one up, it probably won't be. A smaller/less established school limits the growth and quality a law school can deliver, to some degree. It can still be an awesome program, but its a factor. There's not absurd about that.
  18. If you have a 3.7 and a 155, you will be good for TRU. With a 3.7 and 160 you will be in a good place for UVIC, UofC and UofA also.
  19. Stark is correct, a Universities Law and undergrad programs can vary dramatically in terms of quality and rep. Osgoode is the classic example of this. Nobody associates an Osgoode graduate with the drab, lacklustre quality of York's undergrad programs. Lakehead seemed to catch onto this differential, which was presumably behind naming their Law School "Laskin". However, in general, exceptions prove the rule. The relative competitiveness of Ontario Law Schools is roughly identical to the relative ranking of the main institutions undergrad programs. Lets hope TRU becomes the Osgoode of the West! Overall, Im really excited to go to TRU. It seems like it has an awesome faculty, culture, and a great facility. But there is the institutional risk factor, which I've already embraced. I've spent years trying to get into Law School and actually wanting to go to TRU- and thats sparked a desire to want to know everything I can about the program before I commit three years and 60 grand. Its a risk overall, which Im more than excited to take.
  20. Not really, I just like information. I do appreciate the PM.
  21. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/canadian-university-report/british-columbia/article26898471/ Well, it matters in that TRU does not conduct research and is an open university. I believe this makes TRU the only non-competitive, non-research based university that hosts a Law School. It also indicates that the institution probably doesn't have much in terms of an endowment. Its access to education mandate and non-research based focus likely means that TRU is stuck as a regional teaching university that can't quite grow to something more then that. This is a concern for two reasons: 1) You can't bank too much on TRU's rep going up dramatically in the decades to come. When Calgary opened up a law school, the UofCalgary was seen as something of a TRU. UofC's capacity to conduct research and grow its endowment means it doesn't have that reputation today. Im not sure you can bank on TRU for those reasons. 2) TRU, VIU, Royal Roads etc are fairly new universities that have been restructured a number of times. The eventual restructuring usually resulted in entirely new institutions. If this happens again to TRU in the decades to come, the law schools brand will be at a loss.
  22. I'm from Alberta and people seem to want to stay clear of TRU for programs other than Law. Whats the overall impression of TRU as an institution in BC? Is it seen as comparable to UVIC or OBCO in quality or not quite there? @DougFromOntario I am more concerned with the program, which is why I chose TRU law over other options. I am just concerned that a weak central institution could impede the eventual success/quality of a good law program.
  23. Anecdotal Experience for Foreign Law Schools: Warnings: - Have a friend who graduated top of their high school class and had a Deans List average first two years of undergrad. Thought it wasn't worth their time to finish an undergrad degree from a reputable Canadian school. Went to a highly prestigious, but not oxbridge UK Law school. Took them 7 years after graduating law school to find/finish articling and write the bar. -Have a friend with a UK law degree who could not find articles and now sells real estate - Have a friend who has a foreign law degree from the most prestigious law school in a non-western common law country and clerked at that country's supreme court. Came to Canada with 10+ years experience and works at a mid level at a mid-tier law firm. Successes: - Have a friend from a highly affluent, well connected "old stock canadian" family. Went to a UK school, summered at his uncles firm and got a permanent position there and had a great time doing it. - Its no secret that many of the Law Students at UK schools,especially Leicester, are Indo-Canadian. I know many UK/Aus trained lawyers who have thriving law practices serving this particularly litigious ethnic community. If you are well connected in this community and don't mind practicing family/real estate law in South Asian enclaves in the GTA or Greater Vancouver, a Leicester degree might actually be advantageous for your networking.
  24. So I have heard great things about TRU law and that is reputation is getting better each year. However, I am somewhat concerned about the main campus of TRU. Unlike TRU, comparable law schools(Sask Windsor Lakehead), are connected to actual universities. You can be reasonably secure that the facilities, quality of instruction, endowment will be reasonably good. Thompson Rivers University, however, isn't really comparable to even Lakehead or Windsor. Its got a reputation as a shaky regional school that follows a distance and satellite model. They have also inundated their campus with unqualified foreign students who cannot keep up academically and default on their tuition. In a way, TRU is more like Sheridan College than Windsor, Brock, Lethbridge etc. While I understand the Law School is quite autonomous, wonder if this has any bearing towards its quality or its future growth?
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