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  1. The one time it was brought up to me, the Vancouver interviewer told me that they were making the assumption that I was more interested in the Vancouver office than Toronto. That was true for me so I just said yes.
  2. I’m a UBC student who did both recruits and ultimately chose to stay in Vancouver. Based on my personal experience (and from my friends’ experiences), at the OCI stage, I don’t think it’s much of a red flag if you apply to two different locations of the same firm. Several of the Toronto OCIs were with firms that I had OCIs with in Vancouver. There were a couple Vancouver firms that asked about it at the OCIs, and at that point, you may need to indicate a particular preference. At the in-firm stage, I found it rare that students were offered in-firms at two different offices of the same firm (that could just be due to my small sample size). All the Toronto in-firms I received were from firms that didn’t give me an in-firm in Vancouver and it was similar for some of my friends that did both recruits as well. For me, for the firms I was very interested in Van, I didn’t apply for their TO firm. For the firms I was indifferent about in Van, I chose to apply to both. Having said that, as I said above, looking back now, I don’t think it would have much a huge difference in terms of getting OCIs for these firms. The firm I ended up at was actually a firm I didn’t have much interest for pre-OCIs and I OCId at both TO and Van offices. Just be prepared to answer questions like “Why Vancouver/Toronto” as everyone said above, and “What would your preference be”, which is a question that actually didn’t come up quite often. Also, hopefully this is a given, but just make sure you don’t tell both offices of the same firm that you would prefer to be in their specific city.
  3. Can confirm that several students turned down Toronto in-firms because they landed jobs in Van. In terms of grades, a B+ average at UBC (from what I’ve seen) should be enough to get you over the “initial grade threshold” for OCI interviews at the least. One thing to keep in mind, however, is that there are only about 13 Toronto firms that actually come out to UBC to OCI. So if you’re hoping to apply more broadly in Toronto, non-OCI firms would have to bring you in straight to in-firms. In order to increase your chances, it may be wise to network in Toronto as much as you can (though I have no idea how big of a role that would play).
  4. Not sure if there is a formal recruit, but job postings from them and BCG come up on the UBC career website time to time.
  5. If you go to UBC, Careers Services has a list of past UBC graduates that have worked in NYC at some point. It is not a lot. The last two to have gone was 2015ish. One of them ended up being the gold medalist (and is already back in Vancouver) and the other was a BCCA and SCC clerk (still currently working in NY to my knowledge). Before those two students, most of the students that got NYC jobs got them during the recession when more US firms did resume collection at UBC (some even did OCIs I heard).
  6. Just to add to this conversation about other markets if any future 2Ls are lurking.. at least in the Vancouver market, it is arguably more reasonable to follow pzabbythesecond's advice. In fact, I have heard of students in Vancouver following this advice and still obtaining offers from the first firm. In terms of how it may affect your reputation, it might be the result of it being a much smaller market vs. Bay, but I have talked to many lawyers/partners who indicate remembering the names and faces of students that told them first choice but didn't accept when they called. To that extent, it may potentially damage your reputation. To the extent that this will affect your legal career in any way, who knows. Another difference, however, is that I hear less about "horror stories" of firms leading students on in Vancouver than in Toronto or firms explicitly pressuring you to drop first choice (although many firms will not call you if you do not tell them first choice). From what I have heard/experienced, students have a pretty accurate sense of what to expect on call day - which makes it less of a risk to do something like telling a firm they are not your first choice anymore if you are confident your real top choice will call you. This is anecdotal, however, so if anyone else has heard/experienced otherwise, please feel free to chime in.
  7. From what I’ve heard, first year associate salaries for full service mid sized firms from cities in the Fraser Valley seems to be in the 80-90k area
  8. I heard some rumblings that RBS handed out offers already. But again, they have chosen not to follow VBA guidelines and held recruiting events during the “blackout” period as well. I have not heard of any big firms or any other downtown firm do this. Other firms that handed out offers that I heard about are firms not in downtown Vancouver.
  9. From what I have heard, apparently firms are allowed to commit to abiding by the VBA rules or not commit. But once they commit, they should be following them. Some of the people being offered positions that I know of either interviewed with firms outside of downtown Vancouver or interviewed with a downtown firm that chose not to abide by the VBA rules - most firms in downtown Vancouver have committed to abiding by the rules. Not sure if there are any real consequences for breaking them though... other than obtaining a bad rep maybe?
  10. A bunch came out for Allard today - I think nearly all large national/international firms
  11. All three firms have sent out ITCs. BJ Vancouver gave out PFOs.
  12. Van standard for large firms was around 960-1000 per week I believe. Some firms go up to 1100. Not sure if this will stay consistent this year but no changes on NALP so far.
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