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  1. treemonster

    Articling -sole practitioner - salary range

    I think the likelihood that a lower income/marginalized student will have a difficult time getting a line of credit or cosigner for it is an important factor. As tuition has increased, it's become next to impossible to attend a Toronto law school without a line of credit (or personal/family wealth). The higher tuition isn't being distributed to bursaries that fully bridge the gap between calculated need and OSAP funding. Schools with lower tuition amounts have such bursary programs. How is there an argument about which is more accessible for lower income people?
  2. Okay, sounds like you have plenty of experience, but the only thing that helped me improve on inferences was untimed logic games practice. I think unlimited time to diagram is really helpful. A lot of times I found the extra diagramming time was a waste of time, but sometimes it was useful, and practising that way helped me get a better intuitive sense for when I'd done enough diagramming and gotten all the inferences. After practising over-diagramming games, I got better at seeing the end result of rules (inferences) without needing as much diagramming. That's how I got faster as well.
  3. Get the most recent tests you can. Game 3 of December 2016 involved an inference it seemed like many missed (judging by reddit comments after the test). Are you doing your practice timed or untimed?
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    Chances? cGPA 2.96, L2 3.01, LSAT 175

    Even without drops, you'd get into Manitoba, so there's that.
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    Tips on increasing gpa? Help me!

    I was accepted to Manitoba in the index category, CGPA came to 2.0, but their drop policy really worked in my favour. So straight out of undergrad with that 2.0, I was competitive enough for admission to a Canadian law school. I would have been stupid to go though, which is the bigger problem I think with someone with a very low GPA hoping to get in. I agree with you in general though, just had to contradict the absolute. Edit: and just realized my example ignores the relevant context of holistic review not index. Sorry, just still sensitive from reading and hearing similar during my application process. And really, I still think the more delusional thing for someone with very low stats isn't that they think they have a chance of acceptance, it's that they think they should go in the first place.
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    Tips on increasing gpa? Help me!

    So, hey, I've noticed people who take the bus are much more likely to have a low income. In fact, the people with the highest incomes drive very expensive cars! So I recommend you stop wasting money on a transit pass and buy and expensive car for your commute instead. That's why your advice to switch majors based on a minor differences in LSAT scores as correlated to majors is dumb. Standard advice should apply to OP: major in something you are interested in and gives you knowledge and skills you find useful. There was no indication they were unhappy with their major. I've seen post after post telling people not to pick a major based on presumed GPA/easiness of grading, and here you are advising it based on an unsubstantiated causal link to LSAT score. I really was being sincere when I said I thought you were joking. Why not just alert them to the trend and advise studying for the LSAT now? (Also, isn't criminology a liberal arts degree?! So I am confused by distinctions like this: "LSAC lists Criminal Justice and Criminology as separate degrees. The former's highest mean is 145.8 whilst that of the latter is 149.07. Unless I'm mistaken, both are lower than any liberal arts degree listed.")
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    Tips on increasing gpa? Help me!

    I have no issues with the data, but you're joking on the advice though, right? I don't care if it's old, but the data does not mean that majoring in criminology leads to a lower LSAT score, or that any major leads to a particular score. Correlation is not causation, blah blah. Maybe crimonology attracts a certain type of person who doesn't do well on the LSAT. Maybe crim majors slack on LSAT studying because they think they have an advantage. Majors are self selecting, so this info doesn't show that any major prepares someone, or disadvantages someone, for the test, so advising someone to switch majors makes no sense.
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    1L Textbooks

    Emails have said not to buy them until we get our final schedules on September 5th. It seems like it should be safe to buy for constitutional at least, since it doesn't have different sections, but I don't know if the text(s) have been confirmed for it. Website says $1500 for books and course materials throughout the year. If anyone knows how accurate that is, I'd also like to know.
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    D+ average in 1L: Feel Broken

    If it were so easy to get one of those jobs with lower levels of education, why do you think so many people with post-secondary education are working jobs they hate for minimum or close to minimum wage? It's concerning to me you think it's so easy for people to walk out and get a job paying 50,000/year. I don't know if it's misinformation, privilege, or inexperience, but man... If I were hiring someone for a job that had no need for a JD, I would not see a JD as a major factor influencing my decision. I did hire a JD for an entry-level, low-education position once, but when I saw his resume, it just made me raise my eyebrows and wonder why he went to all the trouble of law school and wasn't working in law. I suspect his poor social skills and work ethic could have been factors, but maybe he was just bitter about taking a job below him, as he saw it. He ended up being terrible.
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    Am I the only complete failure here?

    OP said they wrestle with depression every day, and feels worthless and like a complete failure. Sounds like an explicit reference to mental health issues to me, and feelings or worthlessness and hopelessness are the generally the most dangerous of depression symptoms. It's obviously not up to anyone on an internet forum to diagnose someone with clinical depression, but I think the point that members of a profession with very high incidence of mental health issues should be attuned to obvious signs and learn how to respond appropriately is important. Doesn't mean you're an asshole because you didn't (or still don't) see that here while others do, but note OP also specifically said the worst part is people not understanding how hard it is for them and telling them it's not so bad. Telling someone suffering from depression that they should suck it up (no matter how well intended) makes them feel worse, and this poster makes it clear that's true for them right now. There was a lot of good advice in this thread for OP, but omph's advice is also very good and broadly important. I don't think there's any need for believing it means someone is a bad person (or an asshole) for not seeing signs of potential mental illness or mental health crisis, or for unintentionally responding in a way most people in that situation would find unhelpful or even harmful. I don't think saying the legal profession has an issue with mental illness is news to anyone at this point (it's been worrying me since I began reconsidering law school), and pointing out areas for improvement shouldn't be an attack on any individual's empathy either.
  11. Write it because it's great practice. I don't have test anxiety, but the pressure of the real thing (costs associated and all) definitely affects my performance. You've paid for it (it's also really expensive practice), and even if you aren't ready, it's a great opportunity to see how you perform under true conditions. I tried my best to simulate official conditions, but it's just not the same. And who knows, maybe you'll be surprised. There are people who score better on the real thing than they've been PTing. Maybe the pressure will help. Never know! But I can see feeling like you don't want a score you don't like on your report, even though it won't count if you raise in in September. No one else will ever care though, and for all anyone knows you had the flu or something (both times I've taken it there seem to be plenty of sick people in the room!).
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    staying motivated

    Exercise (preferably in the morning) makes a huge difference for my motivation for work. Also, since no one else said it, maybe check on your overall mental health. Mild depression can be sneaky for me, and sometimes the first thing I notice is lack of motivation for work.
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    Manitoba vs. Victoria

    Thanks for your response! For the record, I thought I'd wordily reply with my reasoning for ultimately choosing UVic. When I made this post, I think I was mainly leaning towards Manitoba because it seemed less scary. I've been to Winnipeg, it's familiar and closer to my home(s). It's just closer to Toronto (both geographically closer and more similar to Toronto than Victoria is). Also, despite my saying I hope to rank really highly, I had the same perception as you, wmd2014, that maybe it would be easier to compete at a school with lower average entrance stats for students. I realized that either way, I won't be living in Toronto (duh), and Winnipeg isn't particularly close to Toronto anyway. I have to commit to living somewhere else, not trying to stay close to Toronto, so I thought more about where I'd rather live for 3 years and which school would provide the most career options (outside of Winnipeg and Victoria, since I really don't want to stay in either, for different reasons). I've never lived on the west coast, I hate winter and I love trees (it's in my username! I actually didn't know Victoria had such awesome trees until after I made this thread), so Victoria seemed like a nicer place for me to live for three years. As far as "ranking highly" I've definitely changed my mindset on that even being a goal for law school. The ideal outcome for law school is a good job, and while grades are a factor there, I shouldn't be thinking so much in terms of competition as much as what I can do to succeed. Here UVic came out ahead. I found information that academic support (and general support) at UVic seems more proactive than at U of M. UVic has free tutoring available for all students in first year, whereas at Manitoba you need to get bad grades first before it's available. That seems awesome, because I've heard there's no logic games section on law school exams, and (almost?) everyone will have a better academic record than me... And that's twice I mentioned career goals. Overall, I don't think either choice would dramatically increase (or limit) my career opportunities. I just got the impression that I'll have a wider access to career options for two reasons: UVic doesn't have a super local legal market of its own, so it sounds like the career centre provides much more support for non-local jobs (and lots of out-of-province firms do OCIs there), and the option to get resume-building experience through co-op program couldn't hurt. Basically, I made the thread because I was kind of scared to leave Toronto, and wanted to be reassured it was okay (or even smart!) to choose Manitoba because it's closer to Toronto. But once I accepted I'm leaving Toronto either way, I realized I was only feeling conflicted because aside from proximity, I prefer UVic (though I'm sure U of M would have been great too!).
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    Orientation Dates

    There's a welcome assembly on the fifth. I think that's when we get our course schedules too.